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ManusJustus said:
bimmylee said:
ManusJustus said:

The devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them.
- Matthew 4:8

The Matthew passage speaks of Jesus being tempted by Satan, as Satan shows him "the kingdoms of the world". This is clearly a supernatural event. It's another vision.

Clearly a supernatural event?  I guess you could say that about any fact a religious person says, and immediately every claim a religious person makes about any religion becomes valid.  Can we say that everything in the Bible is a supernatural vision then?  Perhaps Jesus didn't raise from the dead, its just a vision the Disciples had.  Maybe there was no garden of Eden, it was just a vision.  And so forth.

Lets try to be reasonable here.  This is a claim made by the Bible, that the Devil took Jesus to a high mountain to show him the entire world.  Why did the mountain have to be high?  So that Jesus could see the entire world.  This claim is now known to be incorrect.

Logically speaking:

The Bible says you can see the entire world from a high mountain.

You cannot see the entire world from a high mountain.

The Bible is false.

Did it ever occur to you that they may have gone to the top of a high mountain because of its remoteness, far away from other people? If a bunch of other random people had seen the vision that the devil was showing to Jesus, then it would have caused a lot of complications; the devil was only focused on tempting Jesus at the time, and no one else. Seems you have only assumed that they went to the top of the high mountain in order to physically see further. Don't ignore the context.

Also, "the kingdoms of the world" ≠ "the entire world"; this is another unfounded assumption you have made. 

ManusJustus, you are repeatedly twisting the words of the Bible to fit around your own truth instead of seeking the truth that is already in it. There's only one way that the Bible's own verses can be used against itself, and it's called cherrypicking.



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