Kasz216 said:
psrock said:
Kasz216 said:
psrock said:
Kasz216 said:
psrock said:
TheRealMafoo said:
tombi123 said: Oh well, the rich and middle classes can afford it anyway :P
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Well, that's where the long term problems come in. Taxing the rich to give to the poor, hurts the poor more then it helps.
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The rich don't pay as much taxes as you think, they have so much tax breaks, its crazy. I don't feel bad for them.
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You don't get it.
Taxes on the rich hurt the poor more then it helps because of the nature of money and the rich.
Rich people don't throw their money in big vaults and swim around in it like scrooge McDuck. They invest it. Which results in GDP growth, which resutls in everyone in the country getting richer because everyones wages rise faster and more jobs are created.
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That must be why so many poor got wealthy during the Bush year, and none during the Clinton.
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Actually the Gini coefficent GREATLY rised during the Clinton years.
and shrank during the Bush years.
The rich got poorer then the poor did in the Bush years.
The rich got richer then the poor in the Clinton years.
Though trying to make that comparison when we were in a giant market recession that had it's makings well before bush came into market is realy disengenious. Which to be fair, i've come to expect from you. You tend to do nothing but troll these topics and make no effort to actually learn anything or make any well reasoned arguements.
It's rather grating.
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No, I am one of the few who comes her and reall disagree which the crap being said on a daily basis in these threads. Unlike you guys who goes to website to look for meaningless numbers to prove a point, I actually know what it is like to be poor, middle class and well off. I have actually been part of politics and lived with the poor. But, coming from people who'd rather protect rich people than care for the poor, I am not surprised.
And calling people trolls for their opinions is against the rules in this site.
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I'm not calling you a troll for your opinion. I'm calling you a troll because you never actually bother to offer any sort of argument outside of "I know i'm right!"
In otherwords. You offer nothing constructive. You may as well be saying "PS3 will sell 300 million because i say so!"
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I'm not you. I am telling my experience, which I know better than you. Ask any poor people which time period the'd rather live in, the Clinton or the Bush, I don't care for Clinton, but it was better. I know it's just a small sample of 300 million, but it's my sample. No research is needed.
Funny thing, I predict 10 years from now, we will have a different thinking of this Health care bill based on how historians put it, i expect a much posive view on it. That's life.