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Kasz216 on 22 March 2010
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naznatips said:
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Here is a good way to put it actually. NOBODY I know considers Final Fantasy tactics a JRPG.

I've never seen it refered to as a JRPG. Final Fantasy tactics is quite literally Final Fantasy with a different battle system.

No matter how you define WRPG or JRPG.... SRPGS aren't involved. Valkyria chronicles is just being folded into the JRPG genre because of "list wars" and nobody cares which console has the best SRPG.

Except I don't give a damn about the PS3 or anyone's stupid lists and I still consider it and other SRPGs a subset of JRPGs. I absolutley consider FF Tactics a JRPG.... and I bet you almost anyone you ask will tell you Fire Emblem is one.

You are the first person i've ever met to call Fire emblem a JRPG.. so you would lose that bet.

Maybe you should find more people to talk to? If you ask the same 5 friends who share your worldview things you'll never get a new perspective. Time to branch out, my friend.

I'm actually talking about these forums. If you look up a "Your favorite RPGs" thread you'll notice I often ask "do you count SRPGS" to which the answer is almost uniformly no. And that's just RPGs let alone JRPGS. SRPG isn't even really a subgenre, it's full out it's own genre. Like TPS even though the only difference between TPS and FPS is camera angle.

Hehe I think the only reason anyone considers TPS a genre is that there are so many freaking shooters that you have to have some way to separate them. It's basically the same deal with JRPGs and WRPGs. There are too many RPGs to group them. The thing about defining SRPGs as different is that everything about the games is the same as any other RPG except for the combat system, and you can't define an entire genre of RPGs by their combat system. Most SRPGs still have exploration, sidequests, leveling and customization, parties, linear stories, etc. Mind you Valkyria doesn't have much exploratiaon, but you get the point. Other SRPGs like Resonance of Fate certainly do. Do you not consider that a JRPG?

We just can't define RPGs by combat system. There are too many.


Most SRPGs don't have exploration or sidequests... though that's a minor quible. Your not even argueing why SRPGs are JRPGS anymore... but why you think SRPGs should be considerd JRPGs... with that arguement basically being "There aren't enough of them." FPS and TPS have always been different genres though, even before there was a huge wave of shooters. Just how SRPGs have always been it's own genre seperated for JRPGs and WRPGs. Which used to be ARPGs and RPG (proper) until WRPG developers started developing stories that were more sandbox like and JRPGs started using action based gameplay.