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Esmoreit said:
Just... explain to me one more time why free health care is bad? I mean, we Europeans have had it for decennia and it works great for us. Insurance companies are still competing and turning a profit. The quality of care in the EU is on average higher then the US (even higher if you only take the west of the EU) according to the WHO... What is so different in the US? Why wouldn't they be able to implement this right?

Also, going back to your Caterpillar arguement in the OP Mafoo - I'd say it levels the field of competition. Here in Europe, companies have been insuring their employees for decennia.

Here is the problem:

No system is free. Someone pays in every system. In European systems, there are general taxes to ensure that everyone has health care. It does see *some* health savings.

In our system, if we had such a tax, and kept the underlying problems intact (which for the most part, they are still there with current legislation), then the cost to people for a European-style system would be FAR more expensive.

Imagine suddenly paying 2-3 times as much for your health care as you do now. Would you want such a system? If not, that is what we would get. The American system of health care has some problems - there isn't sufficent competition, and there is much frivolity and corruption in the current program. Oh, and don't forget that any extra health care in the US doesn't tackle underlying problems like obesity which increase health care costs in general.

 



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