To Microsoft and Nintendo fans

[Mr Khan]

MaxwellGT2000 said:

Rainbird said:

leatherhat said:

Rainbird said:

leatherhat said:

Rainbird said:

GodOfWar_3ever said:

Heavy Rain and Resistence are first party you know....

No they're not, just like Ratchet & Clank and inFamous isn't 1st party either.

If those games arent first party then neither is Metroid Other M

I don't know the situation with Other M (with Team Ninja and all), but Insomniac, Sucker Punch and Quantic Dream are all second party developers for Sony.

It works like this, Insomniac, sucker punch, and QD made the games but Sony owns the IPs. Metroid is a nintendo owned property, but is being developed by a nonnintendo company, tecmo. So they are all first party owned games developed by studios that aren't owned by the respective first party. 

With Other M, I think the difference is that Nintendo are letting a 3rd party work on something that Nintendo themselves created, which makes it trickier to categorize. 

With Sony, all those properties were created by 2nd party developers, which makes them 2nd party games.

And the fact that it's with Team Ninja and not by Team Ninja, since Nintendo is co-developing it.  It effectively is first party in my books, since with anything like that you're gonna have Nintendo watching your every move and having their input even if they weren't co-developing it, hell they told Retro to make Metroid Prime, Miyamoto came in and told them to scrap the whole third person idea lol, if they thought Team Ninja wasn't on their path the same thing would happen.

There are very few Nintendo published games that are freely published like that. The Last Story is one such game, but most of the ones even developed by companies they don't own they generally have a lot of direct input in. It's not like Lair, or White Knight Chronicles, or the original Mass Effect. In those cases the developer has control, generally. But for something like Mario Strikers or Battallion Wars or even ExciteBots, those belong to Nintendo first and foremost.