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thismeintiel on 20 March 2010
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Squilliam said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Squilliam said:

Because quite simply the Natal interface has more commonality with the Wiimote than it does the Eyetoy. The Wiimote device at principle runs off a IR camera and an IR source, the Natal interface does the same. The only difference is that the IR source and camera are on the one device. Hence the fact that Natal bears a closer resemblence to the Wiimote and its existance as an interface has more to do with the success of the Wiimote than any inspiration from the lack of relative success the Eyetoy had. Since the main part of the interface doesn't even use the same spectrum of light as the Eyetoy its pretty foolish to draw a connection.

Oh and Microsoft has been working on new interfaces since before the mid 90s. Natal is probably the first real product to come out of a ton of research and development. Had the eyetoy not existed, the inordinant about of money spent on R+D by Microsoft on new interface technologies would have been spent. Arguably they had the precursers to Natal long before Sony even released the Eyetoy.

You do realize Natal got its tech from a DIFFERENT company right? or do you have any proof MS was working on that tech for ages? Would love to see it

Eyetoy and Natal both uses a camera to detect movement, if that isn't as close as it gets your just in denial

Why would I need proof? Its built into your Windows operating system in the voice control, its built into the Surface computer, into the Windows Mobile operating system, Microsoft Tablet format and that tech came from Microsoft labs. We also know that Natal wasn't even going to be a console interface until the Xbox guys coopted it.

The Eyetoy is nothing, its no inspiration for anything. The lack of success of the Eyetoy isn't inspiration to spend half a billion dollars on a new interface and to bet the future of a console on it. The Wiimote on the other hand is inspiration and thats the reason why Natal exists as a console interface. The Eyetoy may as well not exist because Sony did so very little with it in the first place.

Wow.  I was going to actually start a conversation with you.  But after that outburst, I can see you are biased in your thinking.  I will admit that Natal pulls its inspiration from more than the EyeToy/PSEye.  It's more of a combination of the Eye and the tech found in the Wii.  However, you don't think they are pulling off everything (facial recognition, vocal recognition, and tracking) with just a set of infrared sensors do you?  No, of course not.  They are also using a motion camera, kinda like the one found in the Eye. 

But again, I will no longer debate you, since I provided proof that the Eye Toy was not a failure or nothing, as you so boldly put it.  You do realize that most likely without the beginning push of the Eye Toy, the first truly successful motion controler for a console, we might not even have had the interest of Nintendo to make it better.  Like I said before, no good idea stems from one source.  It's a collection of "copies" and improvements. 

Also, I hope for MS sake that after what you say is ~20 yrs R&D for them, they can fix the lag issues of Natal.  If not, then Natal will be a failure.  And if it is, I also hope that you won't feel too bad.  You seem to have so much faith riding on it.