Kasz216 said:
Samus Aran said:
Zucas said:
Samus Aran said:
Lol, democratic countries have wars.
Just look at Ancient Greece. Athens was a democracy and they were blood thirsty bitches.
And then we have... The United states of America.... Israël... UK... France... Russia(one could even call communism to be a form of democracy) |
Yes but Greek city-states aren't the best example, mainly because they were a Theocracy. Obivously its hard to tell because we look at it from a different stance, but there was no separation of church and state in Ancient Greece. There was never anything like that back then, because that was absurd then. So while having a from of democracy, is was also very religious which obviously conflicting theocracies will clash. Which the greek city-states did all the time. Not that they believed in different gods, but obvious we know that never plays into anything haha.
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Actually it was unheard of that the "king" or leaders were related to the gods in Greek city-states. It was only after Alexander the Great invaded Persia that the kings were related to the gods. It was mostly because the foreign population they ruled over believed that crap and it was a way to legitimise their power. Seleukos and the Ptolemaios are good examples of this. Religion wasn't the reason why the city-states waged war.
Not all city-states were democracies though, you also had a lot of oligarchies.
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Actually if I remember correctly Phillip the Great. Alexander's dad claimed to have been descended from Hercules. Who of course was son of Zeus. I think it was fairly common for some kings to claim to be descended from a Heracleidae |
Well the invasion of Macedonia with Philip the Great was the end of the city-states being independant. It wasn't the end of the city-states though because they florished in the Hellenistic time(that starts with Alexander the Great), but they weren't independant anymore.
Spartans also claimed to have been descended from Hercules him self, but they hardly ever fought a real war and they didn't consider them self a god at all! There's also a big difference between calling yourself descendant of Hercules and calling your self son of Zeus-Amon you know ;)
Alexander the Great was *considered* a living god, his father? Nope.
And don't forget that the other Greek city-states considered the Macedonians to be almost barbarians(but they were also greek, forget about the country that's called Macedonia today, they have no right to call them Macedonians as they can't even speak Greek.)
