Obama Health care plan.

[SamuelRSmith]

Kasz216 said:

Lord Flashheart said:
It's not in there.
I asked it ages ago.
Why don't Yanks want this healthcare bill. The only reasonable answer has been the cost but then they use the cost of current insurance and medicaid as proof that this proposed as unyet implemented completely new system will cost more.

Their scare-mongering doesn't convince me.
Here's a new question as that seems to be too dififcult are there any posters on here who want this and why?
All we've had is Fox news hysteria so I would like to hear fromm the other side. If they feel comfortable answering will people let them without blindly attacking them for their point of view?

There is an easy way to show it without "scare mongering."

1) There are no real price controls in the bill.

2) It makes a law so that insurance comapnies can't deny coverage to anybody and has to charge these people the same price as everybody else.  So a perfectly fit 40 year old who takes care of himself has to pay the same amount as a 40 year old who smokes 5 packs a day and a 40 year old who has a congential heart defect and diabetes.

Since insurance companies only make about an 8% profit margin... this means all of those costs are going to have to be pushed on to the currently insured consumers.   

 

Health Insurance costs so much because Hospitals charge so much.  Hospitals charge so much because Doctors demand to be paid so much.  Doctors demand to be paid so much because medical school costs so much and your debt only rises because after you go to medical school you have to intern for a long time and the interest piles up.

In america 30 is about the earliest you'll end up beign a real doctor making "big money" that's going to pay off yoru hundreds of thousands of dollars of school loans.

 

In otherwords... you can't make healthcare affordable when there isn't anything to target.  Unversity prices are rapidly rising at ridiculious rates.

The bolded isn't true. Costs do not directly imply prices. With something like medication, most of the price comes from scarcity. Allowing more migrant workers to work as doctors and nurses will be far more effective at wage suppression than reducing the cost of medical education in America. As an example of this, training to be a doctor/nurse in the UK is free under the NHS, and yet a large chunk of our doctors and nurses are migrant workers, because free education simply wasn't enough to keep doctor/nurse wages down in the UK.