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theRepublic said:
Kasz216 said:
Khuutra said:
The revising out of Jefferson's importance doesn't even make sense from a conservative standpoint, the man was a titan of state's rights and was the face of limited federal government.

I just don't know

SIt's not like Texas is the most conservative state.


Texas is one of the most balanced states politcally in the USA.

If you want to see somehting that scares the crap out of republicans... it's the states based on politcal party affiliation.

 

http://www.gallup.com/poll/114016/state-states-political-party-affiliation.aspx

 

Republicans live and die off of independents.

There must be some serious problem in that poll.  I have lived in several different areas of Missouri for 15 years, and there is no way in hell that it is 'Solid Democratic'.  'Competitive' or 'Leans Republican' would be more accurate.

The Govonor, Atorney General, State Auditor, Secretary of State and Treasuer are all Democrats... that's 5 out of 6 main state positions.


There isn't any serious problems with a poll.  It's just a "problem" with democrats.

Democrats do way better on a state level then they do a national level because national level democrats rarely appeal to everybody.

72 Million people in 2004 were Democrats... with 32% of the population reporting democrat.   Republicans are 50 Million registered as as little 20% of the population reports as Republicans.


I mean, look at it like this.

 

Big forces in the Republican party.


Neo Conservatives - Spend like Drunken sailors, terrorism is the devil, social conservative values, governments deregulate buisness  Saftey is the number 1 issue

Conservatives - Don't spend money you don't have, Terrorism bad, social conservative values.  Deregulate buisness.  Saftey is the number 1 issue.

"Economists" (Your buisness owners, wall street brokers) - Don't spend money you don't have, deregulate buisness, terrorism... eh, saftey protects the market... other then that... doesn't care.  Market Deregulation = good.


That's... pretty much it.  Conservatives will go along with Neo conservatives often, because despite their disagreements, they agree on the biggest issue.

 


Big Democrats focus

Extreme Liberals - Spend like crazy, single payer healthcare, social justice issues, protect the enviroment.  Main issue social justice issues.

Union Democrats - Don't spend money you don't have, Terrorism bad, socially a mixed bag, against public healthcare,  becuase they plans they'll get will be worse then the ones they have.  For green energy, but against carbon caps and anything that can actually hurt their companies so they basically want the government to fund car companies and the like for more jobs for them, wants buisness fairly deregulated, except when it comes to making sure unions get what they deserve.

Single Interest Democrats -  These people are fairly moderate, but identify Democrat because the issue they care about most is one the Democrats care about... there aren't many republicans like this because it has to be a proactive choice.  For example, pot legalization, abortion, racial equality... etc.

Moderate Democrats - Don't spend money you don't have, care about social justice issues, and the enviorment, but don't want to go too far because they feel there are more pressing issues, like the economy, jobs etc.  Basicaly your middle class families that aren't union workers.

 

It's so much easier for Democrats to lose votes because of the split.  Union Democrats... they're REALLY hard to win, and it's why states like Michigan and Ohio are always so close... there are way more of them, but they've constantly been more or less lied to about getting their interests across.


Single Interest democrats.... if you don't play up to that interest their gone....

As for Moderates and extermists... if you go one way, you lose extremists to Ralph Nader types.  If you go the other way, you lose the moderates.... often to Republicans... or even more often disinterest.