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Akvod on 17 March 2010
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MontanaHatchet said:
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It was funny, but that just reaffirms my position on DICE. They're the annoying kid in school. They need to shut up, stop attacking Modern Warfare 2, and just let their own game speak for itself.

*shrug* it's competition. At least it's friendly competition and not like the comments we see from the PR of Sony/Microsoft, Jaffe, Moleneux, Turn 10, etc.

If this is too hostile for you, I can't see how anybody can make an ad differentiating themselves from another product.

The only problem I have with this competition is that it's sprung purposely. Let me elaborate. Competition between Sony and Microsoft is bound to happen. After all, they're two big console manufacturers competing for a similar market. There's a similar case between Polyphony Digital and Turn 10. Both are developers who make the biggest racing games of their respective publishers. But with Modern Warfare 2 and Battlefield: Bad Company 2, you have 2 games that are fairly unrelated, and are really only competition because DICE won't shut up. They released at 2 very different times, have different styles of gameplay, and have a huge gap in sales and popularity. The only reason they're considered a competitor is because DICE and EA have been hyping them up as that for a while now. And many people (who are generally sheep) are willing to play into this, showing loyalty for an artificial and frankly stupid competition. It's just like the people that play into the consoles wars (which Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft have so handily made for us). 

There's nothing wrong with liking BC2 over MW2. They're both different types of games, and both are excellent games. However, seeing people play into this fake competition and be puppets of corporate hype really annoys me.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=91987

I've been starting this competition before the PS3 beta even came out =P

Don't imply that I'm a "sheep" I did this out of my own conscious will.

 

In fact, I've been doing this WAY before DICE even made their first jabs (from my memmory) at IW (Cake doesn't lie and dedicated servers)

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=73804

http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2009/10/26/dedicated-to-our-pc-players.aspx

http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2009/10/23/the-cake-isn-t-a-lie.aspx

 

 

DICE copied ME if anything =P

 

I'm not saying you're a sheep. I'm just saying that a lot of people are buying into an artificial competition between two very different games. If you chose to do this of your own accord, more power to you. I just feel like DICE is trying too hard to make MW2 their rival game, and it looks really lame (in my opinion). I'm not trying to shove that down anyone's throat. But still, these videos, as well as their comments, make DICE look like the kid in school that always tries to pick fights with the popular jocks (if that analogy makes any sense).

Wholikeswood: Jesus Christ, get off my back. I do have the right to tell DICE to shut up. I haven't been moderated yet, and telling a public gaming company to "shut up" is hardly a punishable offense on this site. Again, it's a company. I doubt they're reading this. And I would take these videos lightheartedly, except I haven't seen Infinity Ward make videos mocking BC2 (maybe because they're not insecure?), and DICE is just being annoying.

First of all, why are you giving the sense that Bad Company 2 is an inferior game that's not "worthy" of competing with MW2 directly? You make an analogy of a "kid" versus a "popular jock". I would have been interested in an argument that BC2 wasn't a substitue (as you had some point in that they aren't the same exact game. But then what game is? The debate for me would have been that BC2 had differences, but it was those very differences that made them better than MW2. That's what all competition is nowathese days. Differentiation or monopolistic competition, especially in a market where games all release at the same price) for MW2 and therefore does not compete with it.

But now you're shifting your argument (or at least making it sound like) BC2 has no right to "pick a fight" with MW2 because they're an "annoying kid" (inferior) going against "popular jocks" (superior). Very healthy attitude you have there.

And listen, the WHOLE POINT OF ADVERTISEMENT IS TO MAKE PEOPLE AWARE OF THE DIFFERENTIATING QUALITIES. *slams head against wall*. You're really just having your head out of reality if you don't understand why we have advertisement. We do not have a perfect world where everyone cares enough to do research for every single product in the market. In fact, it's overly demanding to do so.

We live in a world when a newcomer or a product that has no hype around it will be ignored. That is why we have advertising. You advertise to tell people what your differentiating qualtities are (against the competitors) and hopefully pull some market share. And comparing and contrasting yourself directly against a competitor is a strategy/method that can potentially help convince consumers to buy your product over other substitutes. What is wrong with that?

I understand if you're not arguing against marketing, but against people acting like dicks (like Sony, Microsoft, and all those other individuals sometimes do), but if Bad Company 2's friendly competition alone is too hostile for you and making you pull out your hair, then your scalp should be bleeding out right now with all the things in this forum and the outside world.