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Kasz216 said:
Kilzoned82 said:
PhoenixKing said:
Kilzoned82 said:

Wars would not be argreed upon if it was left to a democracy to decide upon going to war or not going to war. When it comes to make a decision to go to war it is made by the leader in charge of the country.

Old men make the decisions to fight wars. The young men have to fight and die in them. War is a waste of human life.

Democracy is a lie. You have the choice of two main political parties who sell out to big businesses and make BS laws and decisions that the citizens do not want. Democracy is a total sham. I actually believe a totalitarian dicatatorship is the way to go. At least they are up front and honest about it and do not create a false sense of freedom with this democracy myth.

The war with Vietnam disagrees with you.

America would not go to war, at least for long-term, if the people didn't readily support it.

America got its ass handed to it by the North Vietnamese. The American soldiers died in vain. It was a sham war because the US government did not want Communism to expand through out South East Asia. Thousands of Americans and millions of Vietnamese lost their lives fighting a war that was not worth fighting for. America loves to fight wars it can not win: Iraq and Afghanistan both of those are unwinnable wars. The US troops dying in both Iraq and Afghanistan are also dying in vain. War is a waste of human life. Civilians and infantry men.  

The US got it's ass handed to it in North Vietnam?

They killed like... 850,000 North Vietnese soldiers... and lost about 60,000 troops.

 

They could of won the war.  The only problem was, they would of had to have invaded North Vietnam, and they refused to do that.  By not invading North Vietnam it let the Chinese basically fight a land war vs the US.

 

Iraq was also winnable, just poorly managed.

 

Afghanistan though... not likely to be winnable.

Numbers don't mean a thing in this case. That's like saying Germany won the war in Russia because they lost a hell of a lot less men then the Russians did. And I mean A LOT LESS.

 

USA lost the war in the sense that they didn't achief what they wanted to achieve and they had to retreat because their own people were disgusted by the war there.