r505Matt said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
r505Matt said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
WilliamWatts said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
WilliamWatts said:
Operating systems are platforms which unify distinct hardware under the one umbrella. What the user does with the system is up to the user. For example it seems that more people buy the PSP for media playback than gaming based off attach rates. Does that mean that the PSP doesn't count as a platform for gaming? In addition to this, as future consoles do far more than gaming as well then how do you categorise them?
The iTouch, Phone and soon Pad are the same ecosystem even though they are three distinct pieces of hardware. People have no trouble describing them as a unified platform and they have no problem with the idea that part of their appeal is the mobile games and apps you can get on all three. Windows mobile 7 is also fairly unified in terms of the hardware basis for the phones even if the manufacturers are distinctly different.
In the home operating system space, Microsoft seems to have spent considerable time and money developing their gaming related tools and APIs. Infact both the Xbox 360 and PS3 bear Microsofts influence in the design of their respective GPUs. Its no happy accident that a wide range of gaming does happen on the Microsoft system and people are aware that if they wish to play games they have to go Windows. How does this not add to their overall gaming 'presence'?
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Now see, AGAIN, that is more like an, Opinion :) I for one don't give a rats ass about the media capabilities in my Psp, I got it for games and I keep it for the games. Please feel free to give some solid proof and I will change my overall opinion on that matter, no problem
And now your just trying to get some random numbers in there which is derailing the topic imo. You really wanna get into all the electronics (EG: SE Phones) in the market now? I mean really?
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Look at the attach rates, 2.5 vs 4. The PSP has been out the same time and has a smaller hardware base. You would expect the attach rate to be higher than the PSP but software sales do not match this. In addition to this, the software attach rate ought to be rising as the hardware sales fall YOY but it doesn't seem to be the case.
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So you just jumped to the conclusion that people buy the psp for non gaming purposes? :S Did you even consider the possibility that it might be because there are not as many games on the psp that people would like to play? If you check the software charts you can see when there is a good title released for the psp, the sales sky rocket for it. Your argument is flawed. So unless you have substantial proof otherwise, I am not convinced at all
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This is ridiculous, some people buy the PS3 just for Blu-ray, and there are definitely people who buy PSP just for media playback. You can't just ignore that to suit your arguement.
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ok first take a few deep breaths and relax :D we are not suing the company your working for anything. It's a discussion ok? So take it easy
Second: Check what I highlited on his post. I asked for proof cuz without proof it's an opinion. He used game attatch rates as the reason for his statement. I just pointed out there are MANY possible reasons to the attatch rate situation. I gave an example as well.
@WW: Again mate, you say games don't sell well on PSP. Maybe not ALL games. But the good ones do. You can't deny that now can you? Games like Monster Hunter, Crisis Core, KH:BBS, etc sell impressively. So no, simplest explaination (well at least simplest to you in this case) doesn't mean it's the correct one. So either give some solid proof or it's an OPINION
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Haha we've never talked before, but I'm probably one of the most relaxed person on these forums. I've been angry 2 times in my life, I don't get upset easily, so don't misunderstand me and falsely read some sub-tone of annoyance or anger. So no worries about me freaking out okay? =)
2nd: I know what you're saying, but such a low attach-rate really would indicate something else was going on there. I'm just saying you can't disregard that because you don't want to deal with it/hear about it. But I also agree with you that without substantial proof, you can't totally believe it. But, that doesn't mean it's flawed. Essentially the two of you are looking at the same data and coming up with different conclusions. It's not right to say "your conclusion is wrong, mine is right" just because there isn't enough data. You would have been better off understanding and saying something like "yeah, that could be possible, but there's no way to tell". That way you would have sounded like you listened to someone else's ideas like a human being and not a brick wall.
Sherlock Holmes would say you suffer from a lack of imagination and the inability to make deductions based on simple data. There's nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't make your side correct either.
Just saying.
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Sherlock Holmes might say you lack the ability to read also, just saying ;)
I NEVER said he was wrong and nor did I say I was RIGHT! Again read better next time. I said one can't just jump to conclusions here. I know when I bought my psp, at the time the only games appealed to me were GOW and Crisis Core. None of the other game offerings appealed to me so I didn't buy them, simple. SO again there are many POSSIBLE reasons for such an issue. People with an open mind and imagination should be able to grasp that. PSP games that are good sell well, as I'm sure there are people who bought the psp JUST for a perticular game as with ANY console (I bought the DS for layton) and also as WW said it might be because people buy it for the meda applications and not the games. So there are MANY possible reasons. So unless you can give some factual proof, your just derailing the thread and wasting my time, no offense
PS: When reading into stats, try to consider ALL possible reasons. If not even a moron can jump into sudden conclusions and say hey this happened cuz of THIS REASON DAMN IT!. Stats are what they are. Stats, nothing less nothing more
