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JelDeRebel said:
Eternal Darkness remains one of the best games on the GC. The wii needs more Horror and Psychological thrillers. (not the RE survival horror type)

Nintendo needs new IP's. Mario and zelda are getting old. they feel like the same game over and over again. plus they're being casualized.
I was looking forward to Sadness and Winter. Sadness is vaporware and Winter didn't find a publisher.

The developers of Winter couldn't find a publisher. because publishers said they haven't got a clue about the Wii demographic. Publishers think mature games won't sell on the Wii.


it's quite simple though...
hardcore gamers: want more mature games like PS360. turned away from nintendo due to lack of said games. Nintendo's hardcore IP's are casualized
casual gamers: Wii's core audience won't buy many games. they don't care about sequels of new IP's (e.g. Guitar Hero). they can't distinguish great games from mediocre. they look at boxart. they buy Super Mario because it's well known, yet have no knowledge of the series history.

Wow, I believe your 'simple' explanation isn't based on any facts. 

First, how is Nintendo's 'hardcore' franchises staying the same, yet being 'casualized' at the same time.  Plus, what franchises are you even talking about?  Please explain how Metroid, Mario (either Galaxy or NSMBW), or Zelda are somehow more 'casual' than earlier games in those series?  (what does 'casualization' even mean?)

 

Second, how is guitar hero an example of Wii owners not caring about sequels?  According to VG chartz, these are what the games sold (in millions) on the various platforms.  The number in parenthesis is the percent drop from the previous game:

Game                                               Wii                    PS3                  XBOX360

Guitar Hero 3                                   4.39  (--)            1.96   (--)        4.35   (--)

Guitar Hero: World Tour                  3.39   (23%)      1.51  (23%)     2.40   (45%)

Guitar Hero 5                                  0.84    (75%)       0.61 (60%)     0.73   (70%)

Total drop from GH3 to GH5                        81%                 69%                  83%

The data, at least in the case of guitar hero, indicates that guitar hero just isn't a powerhouse franchise anymore.  The drop on Wii is similair to the drop on the other consoles as well.  So, I ask again: how is this evidence of Wii owners not liking sequels?

 

Third, why do you think that Wii gamers only buy games based on the cover art?  I will direct you to this link: http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/701400/PS3-Owners-Buy-The-Most-Movie-Tie-In-Games-Wii-Owners-Buy-The-Least.html               

Nielson did a study and found that PS3 owners were most likely to buy movie tie in games (which are generally considered to be crap), and Wii owners were least likely to buy a movie tie in games.  Obviously, Wii owners are not buying their games based on just the cover (maybe Wii owners just hate movies?).  

I would put forth that Wii owners, in general, buy games that they think are fun and Wii owners (in general) could care less about 'story' or 'unlockables'.  Look at Just Dance-- it is selling like crazy, got horrible reviews from critics because it was to simple/crude/no 'depth'.  However, go look up Just Dance on Youtube and you will see that people are having fun with the game.

 

Fourth-- you are going to have to define 'hardcore' gamer for any discusion on why they 'left Nintendo' (if they actually did 'leave' Nintendo, which I think is BS.  If anything, the so-called hardcore left Nintendo during the N64 and GC days).

 

Last point (for now): Wii owners do not buy Mario games because it has Mario in it.  If that was the case, then every Mario game would have sold the same amount.  They have not.  According to VGChartz, there are 11 Wii games with Mario in the title:

1. New Super Mario Bros. Wii       12.69m

2. Mario Kart Wii      21.46m

3.  Super Mario Galaxy    8.53m

4. Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games     3.00m

5.   Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games        7.55m

6.  Super Mario Galaxy 2    0.00m

7.     Mario Party 8         7.03m

8.   New Play Control! Mario Power Tennis      1.20m

9.   Super Paper Mario        2.90m

10.    Mario Strikers Charged          2.21m

11.   Mario Super Sluggers          1.26m

 

Again, Wii owners are obviously not buying games just because Mario is in the game.  Otherwise games such as Mario Super Sluggers would have sold more than 1.26 million, or why Galaxy (depsite it being out longer) is being outsold by the months old NSMBW.