adriane23 said:
And yet you continue to debate. But, I'll take your word for it and believe you know more than me about the bill. Please tell me what in this bill will destroy our country? EDIT* And do you think the entire 78% read the entire bill? |
I think the 78% on average read as much as the 22% on average... and that both groups read more and therefore know more then the general public who's against the bill by about 60%.
Dennis Kusnich is against this healthcare bill... I'm not sure if you know, but he's pretty much as left as you can go congress wise.
Also it wouldn't "destroy the country"... that would just be melodramatic.
It will however be detrimental to the country.
How? Well, just read the thing.
1) The Health Chare Exchange - This is an entire government department being created to be a glrofied "Progessive insurance" website feature. Also for some reason middle sized and large companies aren't aloud to use this to get cheaper healthcare insurance... but may be able to in the future.
2) The Public option - It's going to be a government owned buisness... like Fannie mae and Freddie Mac. According to current legislation it's going to forced to be self sufficent. Which is a good thing. The bad thing is... non profit insruance companies currently aren't any cheaper then for-profit ones. A government run healthcare buisness, that has to give everyone government level benefits is going to end up being more expensive. It'd be a miracle if this really can survive without the government subdisizing it.
3) Health insurance prices will only be able to discriminate based on age group, where you live... and family size. First off... where you live? Why? That's just asking for redline districting... secondly... this pretty much raises everyones health insurance costs... a LOT. Since people who are a huge risk, either by birth or often by choice end up paying the same price as everbody else... this means those massive costs of people deemed to risky to even be in the system now are passed on to everyone else. Everyones healthcare bills are going to go up... and spending on healthcare as a percentage of GDP will skyrocket.
4) It limits "out of pocket costs" Which means... no more cheap plans where you just pay for $10,000 worth of coverage.. etc, because you know you probably won't go over that. Now every insurance plan reads like this "You get XX,XXX of treatment for free, then have to pay 5,000 dollars, then it's all free again." In otherwords... rates because of this are going to go up. Percentage of GDP spent will sky rocket.
5) They don't open up acess to healthcare. They say they do, but the bill really just talks about making it easier for people to find insurance quotes rather then being forced to call each company.
6) To get support of the AMA and various hospitals they had to agree to increase Medicare and medicaid payments and roll back previous reductions that were planned. In otherwords... "government" medicare rates have gone up for the government... GDP, Prices etc.
7) Everyone is FORCED to buy healthcare or pay 2.5%. Well everyone who has taxable income.
8) The vast majority of comapnies are FORCED to provide healthcare. They either have to get a minium healthcare plan, or contribute an additional 8% or so of payroll. So... that means less employees, less job growth (Perfect effect for right now).
9) To counter 6... they're going to pay medicare and medicaid doctors bonuses for having low readmission rates. That could go badly a number of different ways.








