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Rpruett on 15 March 2010
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nightsurge said:
Rpruett said:
Twistedpixel said:
Rpruett said:

Halo 1 to Halo 2 then to Halo 3 sure seems to buck the trend... Hmmm....

 

They weren't sitting in the same position as Halo 3 / Halo Reach sit currently.   Halo 1 was a new IP.  Halo 2 was the sequel to this popular new IP.   Halo 3 was the first HD entry, sequel to a popular pre-existing series. 

Microsoft was a growing brand comparatively to the previous generations entries when Halo 3 released. This has stagnated at this point a bit.   By now, people who want a 360 for the awesomeness that is Halo....Own one and own Halo 3 / ODST or whatever else they desire. 

 

 

And yet each consecutive Halo FPS sold more than its predecesor.  So clearly not many people were dissappointed and each time more people were intrigued into buying the game.  The only complaints that were ever made about Halo 3 are now being addressed in Halo Reach so that in turn would draw in even more non Halo fans (new graphics, new gameplay elements, new game modes, sprinting, etc).

 

The Xbox was a new console, with no fanbase and no really quality games.  Then Halo arrived.  Forged a fanbase of MS fans and the rest is history.   I loved Halo 1, Hated Halo 2.  Liked 3 a little more than 2 but it was pretty much more of the same.  

I'm sure Halo Reach will be their most technically advanced Halo yet.  That doesn't mean squat in terms of sales otherwise the Wii wouldn't be the best selling console.   


What you're failing to realize is new graphics, new gameplay elements, etc are all well and good but also there will be people out there that dislike that direction just as much as some people will love it.

 

Oh really?  It seemed like for the RTS genre Halo Wars received overwhelming praise and higher meta scores than any console RTS to date. 

Really?  How many console RTS's have even been released?  That's like saying you won a contest but there was only one contestant.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Halo ODST was merely something to satisfy the most hardcore halo fans until Reach could be completed and was mostly to keep Reach under the radar for a while longer.  The only real complaint about ODST was it lacked much new since it was merely a new short campaign and a new game mode.  Nothing relating to Halo itself has been wrong with any of the Halo games of 2009.  Quite frankly it is NOT common knowledge that the Halo brand is at a low point.  In fact that is only common amongst people who are not Halo fans

 

Halo has taken a franchise hit in terms of critical acclaim.  Over-saturation of the name isn't always a good thing.  The last entries of Halo in the minds of the fanbase are ODST / Halo Wars. 


Halo 1 vs Halo 2, MW vs MW2, Mass Effect vs Mass Effect 2.  Just a few examples that were easy to think of.  In fact, I find it very amusing that to nearly every argument you've made so far, the Halo FPS series seems to be a perfect counter argument! LOL!

 

Again,  you are listing examples of a good  'new' IP / It's even better sequel.   Which obviously Halo Reach will not be in the same position.  Mass Effect/Uncharted/ Halo 1/2. 

If you're looking for examples that compare relatively well, you're going to need to find an established series that released a sequel and was planning to release another main sequel on the same console during the same generation.  (See GT3/GT4 or MGS2/MGS3).   I'm sure there are more examples and possibly some that buck that trend but I would be interested to see one.