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ManusJustus said:

Well, though I enjoy Mr. Stickball and Kasz making fools of themsevlves, it is bothersome that they don't see how foolish they are. Logic and reason evade them, so I dont know what else I can do but quote Bible verses that show them that they are wrong. I shouldn't have to explain this to most people, but for these two it is necesary, you can not see the entire wrold from tall trees and mountains as the world is round. However, if the world was flat, as the Bible states, then you could.

Thus were the visions of my head upon my bed: I saw, and, behold, a tree in the midst of the earth; and the height thereof was great. The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the end of all the earth.
- Daniel 4:10-11

Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them.
- Matthew 4:8

Here are the verses in the New American Standard Version, as it may be difficult for some people to comprehend older versions of English.  I also capitialized and bolded important parts to offset any inabilities to focus that some may have.

Now these were the visions in my mind as I lay on my bed: I was looking, and behold, there was a tree in the midst of the earth and its height was great. The tree grew large and became strong and its height reached to the sky, and IT WAS VISIBLE TO THE END OF THE WHOLE EARTH. - Daniel 4:10-11

Again, the devil took Him to a very high mountain and SHOWED HIM ALL THE KINGDOMS OF THE WORLD and their glory. - Matthew 4:8

Manus! Good to have you back. Now, in reference to the verses you cited:

The Daniel passage speaks of a dream that Daniel was having. The tree symbolizes king Nebuchadnezzar, and--- well, that's really all you need to know. It was a dream. A vision. Not reality.

The Matthew passage speaks of Jesus being tempted by Satan, as Satan shows him "the kingdoms of the world". This is clearly a supernatural event. It's another vision.

I am curious to know specifically where you are finding these "bible-says-the-eath-is-flat" arguments. Are they from reputable scholars? Because I am having a hard time believing that they are.



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