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dahuman on 13 March 2010
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mirgro said:
Akvod said:
mirgro said:
 

That is exactly the problem with levelling systems.

Let me outline it plain and simple. This is the PC, not the consoles. If I want a lot of tactics and strategy I have Warcraft, Starcraft, Total War, Dawn of War, Sins of a Solar Empire, etc. to give me that. I love those games. However when I go into an FPS game I want to play the way I want to play. Yeah I play support classes sometimes, they are fun, but the fact you are forced to play support because otherwise you can get killed is one of the worst design ideas ever to hit gaming, seriously, EVER.

If you really want tactics, go play Total War, it does it far better than this anyhow.

If you want to play run and gun, play Halo or CoD. I will play MAG, Bad Company 2, and maybe Killzone 2.

 

I honestly don't know why you despise any form of tactic or strategy in a FPS. Such things aren't exclusive to RTSs or RPGs. They exist in ALL games. Chess, checkers, racing games, shooting games, Tetris, etc. All of them are about winning through strategy, and that is what makes a game IMO. At least 2 players, trying to win within the limitations imposed on them by rules. That's strategy.

A game that deemphasizes strategy, deemphasizes its very existence and defition as a game.

You don't get it do you. As you pointed out, the lower level people can't really go head to head in a fair gith with a higher leveled one. They need to do some stuff to do so. Also don't bother mentioning Halo or Cod which are pathetic excuses for FPS games. I have been playing squad games since Tribes and I can tell you that levelling added absolutely zero "tactics." so please stop kidding yourself, it's not the startegy and tactics, it's the leveling which forces it upon the lower levels. Yeah I can kill the higher level guy if I catch him off guard, but that's not a fair fight there.

Squad games without levelling are perfectly fine, as in Tribes or TF, the ones with levelling are really quite annoying and bad.

I was raping people 15 ranks higher with my rank 1 gun just fine when I started, all it takes is skills and head shots. game is more about vehicles(hence engis) and medics imo though, which is fine by me since you can't win TF or Tribes without medics or good engis.