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Akvod on 12 March 2010
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mirgro said:
ssj12 said:
mirgro said:
Garnett said:
mirgro said:
Garnett said:
 

So if you play a while you get new weapons?

 

While there isnt a leveling system nor ranks you do earn/get new weapons from playing the game. 

So you do earn new stuff, randomly of course.

Let me explain how it works. Valve took the average play time, then adjusted the drop rates so that a person who plays the average amount of time will get everything they need, on average. I know my friend play a whole lot for a week straight and back then he got all the alternate weps in about a week. Good luck doing that with any of the other games.

So you get new weapons by playing the game.

 

Like it or not thats a leveling system, example

 

4 hours = 4 points

 

200 points needed to unlock sniper.

 

They dont tell you but there counting it, so its a leveling system after all.

Let me explain, if you really want your weapons right away, join an achievement server and you get all weapons for a class in a 20-30 min time frame, so a total of about 2-3 hours to get all alternate weapons. Valve, or anyone else, really doesn't give a damn about that. Let me ask you, can I max out my levels in any game you can think of in 2 or 3 hours by joining a special server that won't put e in jeopardy of being banned or reset or suspended?

Yeah.... I didn't think so.

 

@FKN

Between "360, PS3 and Wii Owner" and your other part of your sig, I am absolutely convinced you don't know anything about just about anything so I just won't bother replying.

you do realize you can still unlock some weapons by earning trophies in TF2 right?

Maybe I'm missing omething, but which trophies exactly are you talking about in TF2. Are you going to deny the fact that outside of maybe the Scout, and that's because there's a lot of bullshit achievements like the jump and run one, you can join an achievement server and farm out your weapons in 30 minutes tops fo any given class? Can you point me towards another levelling FPS where I can get all weapons in less than 5 hours?

@Greyian

I am willing to bet my left nut that TF2 has sold more than MW2 on the PC. As for the MMO market, are you counting the countless MMOs over in Asia as well? Because I can guarantee you for every FPS you can list me I can come up with 2 MMO names. Going even further, all games should be like Farmville, even you can't deny that it has more users playing it than the top 3 FPS games combined.

Sure, a gimped down port with lots of negative sentiment around it is sure going to win a sales war. We may as well say TF2 sucks because the PS3 version of the Orange Box didn't sell as much as MW2 on the PS3 *rolls eyes*

Seriously, why are you bringing up sales? You've been consistently making arguments solely on:

1. Majority rules. Which has been adressed with the point that more copies of FPS games with leveling systems has been sold in comparison to those without this generation.

2. It doesn't fit under my belief on what makes a good FPS game.

I'm not saying it's "wrong" for you to believe leveling systems suck. It's subjective. But when you have this godlike and very patronizing attitude towards us and our own opinions, and you fail to give any proper justifications for your belief, it makes it very hard for us to respect you.

Aside from points 1 and 2, what do you believe are the merits of games without point systems, and the flaws of games that do?

 

Leveling is way easy in this game. The PS3 beta made it much harder to do so.