Cheebee said:
Wonktonodi said:
Cheebee said:
Wonktonodi said:
Cheebee said:
It doesn't really matter who first came up with the initial idea, it's who took the idea and made it into something big, appealing and successful. And while Sony or any other company may or may not have come up with some/a lot of great concepts in videogaming first, fact remains it was Nintendo who pioneered most of the things that are now considered industry standards by intuitively implementing them and making them successful. Some examples would be the D-pad, shoulder buttons, analog sticks, rumble, touchscreen gaming, Z-targeting, 3D platforming and motion sensing. Whether these may or may not have been Nintendo's own inventions is beside the point: they are the ones who made it into what it is these days.
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They are the one that some people think made these things big, but public perception is often more important than reality.
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Not quite sure what you're trying to say there... who do you think 'the public' thinks made these things, then? I'm pretty sure whenever you mention things like '3D platforming', 'D-pad', or 'motion sensing', they will think of Nintendo, not some obscure company from the '80's or earlier that most people have probably never even heard of. 
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well what about analog sticks I think peopel would think of sony for that even if they didn't use it first but because they used 2 and things got big with it during late ps days. Not some obscure company from the 80s, just saying how not even all the things on your first list are things that all would associate with Nintedo first. Some rightly so and others it gets associated with someone who used it latter than instead of before nintendo.
I guess what I was getting at is that people try use public perception to complain about a company making a copy of something when at the same time the public perception is often wrong. So those that are complaining have a misguided complaint.
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Ah, alright then. Yeah, well in my 1st post I was referring to us informed gamers, not the public. I'm pretty sure the majority of informed gamers knows the things I mentioned were Nintendo's doing. You were more referring to the public perception side of things, so I see where you're coming from. 
Of course, there may be some things the general public doesn't see as Nintendo's inventions, like you mentioned, but that I really don't know for sure, 'cos I'm too much into gaming to be considered uninfluenced public.  Of course, a lot of those things also have to do with what/whoever is the most popular. The PS1 and 2 were much more popular than the N64 and GC, so of course more people from the uninformed, general public, will think things like the analog stick for example are a playstation thing. In the same way, and probably even moreso, things like touch screen gaming and motion sensing are nowadays seen as things Nintendo pioneered.
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