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perpride on 10 March 2010
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Icyedge said:
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I bolded the part of your post which is just completely untrue. No multiplatform game is "gimped" by Xbox's capabilities. Unless you have proof, don't make stuff like that up. In fact, many people try and say the opposite and claim that multiplatform games are "gimped" by the PS3. Both groups are lying.

When has multiple CD's/DVD's for a game ever been a problem in the past? The answer is never.

Also, forcing HDD installs would be completely STUPID for Microsoft considering the arcade version of the 360 never came with a hard drive. That would be like a slap in the face of anybody who ever bought their console without a hard drive. And on a side note, why would MS force installs when so many people complain about the fact that Sony does it?

Yes, the disc limitation is a major problem, like it or not, it's a FACT, not opinion, FACT. When you have non linear game, you must cut content out to fit on one double layer DVD, that is a huge drawback and limitations to system with instalation capabilities. The Xbox arcade version is the exact problem, why this gimp is happening, you can't have game with mandatory install.

This isn't true, if the game is non linear or sandbox, you are screwed.

PC games are gimped by beeing released on consoles, not only Xbox, but PS3 also. Dumbed down for both controls and performance. And the gap will be only getting bigger as the time progress, until the new console generation. Don't believe that? Arma 2 or Battlefield 3 says hi. Streaming content from discs can't outperform HDD installations and beeing limited to one disc only highlights that.

And all those developers bitching about it now (like I said, FFXIII, Lost Planet 2, GTA IV, now L. A. Noire) just support this statement.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Really? It's a fact? Then how come Nintendo and Microsoft, using DVD's, have both been more successful than Sony? How come 360 has the highest number of 90+ games on metacritic if 360 games are gimped?

GTAIV was gimped on 360? Really? Last time I checked, it was on par if not better than the PS3 version. And it's a sand box. And it's huge. And it has extras over the PS3 version. And it's the highest rated game of all time. So yeh.... you have no argument...you're complaining about something that has NOTHING to do with anything. Multiple CD's has NEVER been an issue before. AGAIN, here's a quote from your first post:

"Pretty much any multiplatform game comming out on Xbox and either PC or PS3 is gimped by Xbox's capabilities."

WRONG!!! You want to talk about facts? 90% of multiplatform games look better on 360. As sad as that sounds, welcome to the real world.

Your as much wrong you know. The fact nintendo and microsoft have success has nothing to do with DVD vs blu-ray advantages in games. Im not saying blu-ray offer big advantages or any advantages at all. But success is not in a direct relation to capacity advantages, theres many other factors. Also, most recent multiplatform games perform the same on PS3 (dragon age, borderland, darksiders...), when it performs worst it is directly related to the port. As we see right now with FFXIII on 360, same thing happened many time in the past on PS3.

Your basic idea of blu-ray not needed for games is defendable, but youll need better example to demonstrate that. Maybe by evaluating the amount of content found in most PS3 exclusives games VS most xbox 360 exclusive games, would make a good point. For the parts about 90% of multiplatform looking better, your prolly referencing to the PS3 first or second year, where a lot of port wasnt very good. But this is not true anymore for recent multiplatform (some rare case AKA bayonetta). Even if it would still be the same thing, it is a terrible example to prove anything related to the power of each console using multiplatform games. Obviously you need to evaluate exclusive game, if not, I can say things like : "final fantasy XIII prove that PS3 is superior to 360" but its not true. No hate here, only reflection.

 

I completely agree with your first paragraph. In fact, that's pretty much what I was trying to say. The storage medium on the consoles have almost no relations to game quality. Anything a Blu Ray can handle, you can put on several DVD's.

As for the second paragraph...are you serious? Have you seen any head to head comparisons recently? Look at the multiplatform game library that PS3/360 share and tell me which one clearly has the better version of games. You say it was mostly at the beginning of PS3's life cycle. That's somewhat true, but not entirely. Every head to head I've ever seen, up to last month's version, puts 360 ahead in multiplatform titles.

Also, for anyone in this thread still thinking Square made a stupid decision bringing the game to 360, you should look at what Brett posted in the news section today. If you are lazy, I will tell you. If we only count PS3 sales, FFXIII had less fw sales than FFXII. But when you add in the 360, FFXIII is on track to have a better sales openning week than FFXII was. According to the owner of this site, that is clearly because it is multiplatform: http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=7369&mp=1