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The Ghost of RubangB said:
oldschoolfool said:
highwaystar101 said:

National healthcare is a good thing if it works, like it does in many European countries... But the USA's government couldn't organise an piss up in a brewery (without it costing $1.2 trillion anyway).


I've heard different things about national healthcare in Europe. Long waiting lines,people dying before they can get an appointment. Out of control budget in Europe. That's just what I've seen on the news. Samething in Canada.

Let me guess... you heard that from Americans.

We (USA) pay more per person on health care than pretty much the rest of the industrialized world... but they all live longer.  So our current system costs too much and doesn't help enough.  It needs fixing no matter how you slice it.  The "how to fix it" is the argument here.

But hey, I live in San Francisco, and here THE CITY gives me free health care.  There are really annoying long lines, but only when it's not a life-or-death situation.

Yes and no.


We pay more per person on healthcare... but they don't all live longer... at least not when considering what actual medical care provides.  In the US the surivial rates for diseases are higher then pretty much any other country out there.

Our life expectancy is lower, hoever that's because we have a much higher crime rate, obesisty rate, high stress culture and report infant mortality differently from the rest of the world.

 

We actually have some of the best healthcare in the world... it's we're GREATLY overpaying for a slight increase in survial rates.