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Yeah NATAL is an evolution of the Eye Toy and Xbox Live Vision Camera (I haven't tried Eye Toy but from my impressions of the latter, I hate the Xbox Live Vision Camera. lol It's really hard to get the setup just right. Lighting and everything. It's pretty useless outside of it's 640x480 shitty webcam functionality) but people see that as the fresher approch to the Arc because it's not like a whole lot was done with the Eye Toy And XBL Vision Camera anyway. How many games do they have for each? Very few. Whereas the whole Wiimote thing has been done with hundreds of Wii games using the tech. The Wiimote practically defines the Wii experience (aside from those games that are better played on the Classic Controller). I'm more interested in seeing what NATAL can do precisely because it's a fairly new experience (compared to a motion controller). There wasn't much going on with the Eye Toy and XBL Vision Camera. Hopefully NATAL will be of much higher quality and be used for a lot more than just a few games and some gimmicks.