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dunno001 said:
CommonMan said:

Also, I'm really enjoying Seece and Mafoo arguing even though they obviously agree with one another! What a fun place this is sometimes!

Not quite. They both (and myself) agree on the end result. How to explain the present situation is what they seem to be differing about. They can (and should) feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but from how I'm seeing things, Seece sees it as a form of discrimination and unequal rights. (I happen to agree with this stance.) However, Mafoo doesn't see it as this, but rather just an antiquated law that needs to be changed. And thus there is where the dispute begins...

True true, but it's really semantics at this point. They both want the same thing, and are both passionate about it, I find it super interesting how divergent their ideas are and then come together exactly at the end point. It's just a fascinating thing to watch.