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Rath said:
Kasz216 said:
SciFiBoy said:
ManusJustus said:
Concerning angels, demons, ghosts, alien visitors, and the like; they do not exist, but people can easily convince themselves that they do. If somebody wants to believe something, they will.

thank you, thats exactly what I was saying.


It's certaintly a convient position anyway, when you can't come up with a conclusion to what would move a giant metal door... in the presense of people who actually would perfer NOT to believe in random things such as ghosts and demons. There are legitimate unexplainable things that occur though rare. Ignoring them is just the same as deluding yourself in believing in your "pet" expeirece you want to exist. Like Alien abduction people. You are no better then those people if you believe there is nothing that happens that can not be currently explained.

Unless something is repeatable and verifiable it should not be considered. Every single story of 'angels' or 'demons' is anecdotal, there are no controlled studies and no verefied reports. They are almost all witnessed by reasonably small groups and are more easily explained by psychological effects rather than by otherwordly forces.

Claiming that we are deluding ourselves because we don't believe an anecdote told by somebody who we don't even know is silly.

That's not really true.  A number of sciences rely on stuff that can't be strictly repeatble due to their nature.  In addition, it's rather hard to repeat something when you don't know the exact cause.  In fact most theories are formed and often supported WELL before any expierment is concieved that could or could not prove it.

As for verifiable... that I could eaisly accomplish.