Kasz216 said:
SciFiBoy said:
Kasz216 said:
SciFiBoy said:
Kasz216 said:
SciFiBoy said:
ManusJustus said: Concerning angels, demons, ghosts, alien visitors, and the like; they do not exist, but people can easily convince themselves that they do. If somebody wants to believe something, they will. |
thank you, thats exactly what I was saying.
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It's certaintly a convient position anyway, when you can't come up with a conclusion to what would move a giant metal door... in the presense of people who actually would perfer NOT to believe in random things such as ghosts and demons. There are legitimate unexplainable things that occur though rare. Ignoring them is just the same as deluding yourself in believing in your "pet" expeirece you want to exist. Like Alien abduction people. |
either you do believe subconciously or you arent telling us something (like the door is one you need to prop open or it closes)
both are possible.
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The door didn't need a prop to open. You don't think I would of thought of that if this were the case? Your reaching. Hell dude lived in the house till he was like 25. I think I would of noticed. The second is just a silly explination. What would the second half to do with... well anything. What you believe or not isn't going to change something actually happening. To tell if it happened or not is as easy as seeing if the door is open or closed. Your deluding yourselself all the same. |
im deluding myself?
youre the one claiming a door shut of its own accord...
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Clearly.
You can't come up with a logical reason for something to have happened. Yet still try and come up with silly details that anyone with half a brain would of thought of. "Something holds the door open when it needs to be open."
Really?
That guy lived in that house until he was about 25. I had plenty of chances to look at the door and try and figure out what happened.
You're the kind of person who could see something unexplainable with witnesses... come up and dismiss all possibilities and still be skeptical...
It's a VERY unscientific stance and very delusional.
The difference is... rather then being delusional to the fantastic... it's being delusional to what you know. It's fairly common. Scientists who stood in the way of scientific progress often try to explain away things that show their theories are wrong and stand in the way of progress in such cases.
They've always been proven wrong when new discoveries were aloud to be made by those who weren't so close minded.
Calling someone dellusional when they actually apply a scientific approach to figuring something out... is in fact delusional.
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your whole argument assumes I am to believe your story, I see no reason to do so as it asserts something that you cant even prove...