Gay Marriage: Yes or No?

[TheRealMafoo]

axumblade said:

TheRealMafoo said:

axumblade said:

You do know that most gays just want equal rights. I've been dating my bf for 4 years and it would be nice to actually call it official in a state of law.

Just want to point this out, because I never liked this way of thinking.

You have equal rights. I am not gay, and I can't marry a man either. You are gay, but you can still marry a woman. Thus we both have the same rights. That makes them equal.

We just both have less rights then we should. Both of us should be allowed to legally form a union with a man, even if I never chose to exercise that right.

I bring this up, because I hate the terms "gay rights", "women's rights", "minority rights" and so on. They are human rights. We all get them.

Why does gender even have to be involved with "rights" in general? I thought these human rights were based on the people, not gender specificity.

As far as government rights in the US, they should not.

The problem is we took a religious institution, and used it to form laws. The Christian marriage is between a man and a woman. I am an atheist, but I still think it's wrong for government to tell a christian church that they have to do something there bible tells them is wrong.

So, the best way to solve it is to disconnect the religion from the law, and thus remove the emotional element from your rights. You and the person you love should be afforded the same government advantages as me and the person I love. Period. To do otherwise, is a violation. If you find my first post, you will see that I think all Marriage in the eyes of government should not matter. Not just gay marriage.

That way, you can go to the court house in any state, sign up for civil unity (just like I would have to do), and then go find a religious institution that will marry you, if you feel that's important.

The second part you and your boyfriend can still do today. The government can not stop you from being married. They just don't have to recognize it.

Another thing I am in favor of, is just removing civil unions all together. Why does marriage mean anything to government?