Rath said:
bimmylee said:
ManusJustus said:
Concerning liberal thinking on rights:
Liberals have always been on the correct side of rights. I mention things like women's suffrage and civil rights because its a no-brainer in today's society, but not too long liberals were arguing that these people deserved rights and conservative were fighting against them all the way.
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Civil Rights Act of 1964 - Voting Record
House of Representatives:
Democrats for: 152
Democrats against: 96
Republicans for: 138
Republicans against: 34
Senate:
Democrats for: 46
Democrats against: 21
Republicans for: 27
Republicans against: 6
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Surprise surprise!!!
In one of the most important victories for rights in America, only 62% of Democrats voted for it, compared to 80% of Republicans. That's 117 Democrats who tried to vote it down, compared to only 40 Republicans. Every single southern Democratic senator voted against it, as well as 92 of the 103 southern Democrats in the House of Representatives (a whopping 89%). And if I remember correctly, the modern-day Republican Party was actually founded by anti-slavery activists. *shock-and-awe*
To conclude: conservatives were fighting for human rights LONG before the liberals ever were.
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Did he mention democrats in his post? No he mentioned liberals, they are not one and the same. They were even less one and the same before the civil rights act was passed.
Liberals were the people fighting for womens rights/black rights etc. Equality of rights is one of the central tennants of liberalism, you can't really be a liberal without it.
The fact that you're talking about Republicans back when they were founded and Democrats in the '60's as if it was happening today doesn't really make sense for the point you're making.
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Sorry, but that is bull. Harry Truman was already pushing for socialized medicine in the 40's and 50's. The Democratic Party had been very liberal for the vast majority of the 20th century.
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