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Barozi said:
disolitude said:
Barozi said:
disolitude said:
Boutros said:
disolitude said:
lol...someone said heavy rain.

In any case...how do we define biggest?

Innovation which is most fun? Innovation which helped sell most consoles? Innovation which made a change in how games are played?

Shit...the answer to all that is motion controls.


That would be an opinion I'm afraid.


I guess, but it should be a pretty standard opinion.

Considering that online was an innovation which Sega Saturn had, and dreamcast and xbox...and not to mention PC prior to this gen, it really doesn't belong on the innovation list for this gen.

And I don't think anyone is crazy enough to argue that achievements are more fun that motion controls.

What else? DLC? Cutting down games and then selling them as DLC is not a fun innovation if you ask me.

I do

Really? wow... I mean, if you are playing a game you are playing it cause its fun right? Not cause of some meaningless score....

All I can say is that if you have non-gamers over a your place...achievements are worthless. Wii sports boxing and bowling however provide shitloads of fun.

Read my first post in this thread.

Achievements give you a reason to play a game, giving new targets and thus extending the playtime.

Just because a game has motion controls, doesn't make it automatically better or more worthwhile.

I doubt I have more fun playing Wii Sports, than playing Mario Kart 64 or Bomberman back then. (multiplayer-wise)

So it's just a new direction of gaming, not for the worse, but also not for the better.

 

What do you think about Highscores ? Pretty meaningless now aren't they ?

Back in the days this was the main reason why you played a game. Just like with achievements, everything was already in the game, but playing Tetris without getting a score is boring as hell. You'd play it once, maybe twice for the awesome music, but there would be no reason to play it more than that and improve yourself.

Achievements don't turn a bad game into a good one, but they make good ones even better.

With that being said I don't care much for my overall score. I earn them for myself, because they give me the feeling that I made a good decision in buying that game.

I will add this, I NEVER have played a game on harder than normal level before. Due to acheivements I have now, and I have found a whole new level of well, acheivement. It does feel cool to beat a game on the harder level, and some games can play like a whole new game (if the AI is good enough), layers of fun and accomplishment added with just a 50 point acheivement.