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jarrod on 01 March 2010
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Netyaroze said:
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Did the DS not hit the thirty million milestone on the same week?

Roughly 1 in 4 people owning a DS (not quite, but I doubt multi-ownership is a huge factor) is very impressive. 1 in 12 owning a Wii, not so impressive, though it probably looks better in terms of 'households'.


You doubt muti-owner ship is a big factor ??

 

Comeon look at the people here, some have 3-4 DS or even more. And I bet that most people have 2. A DS and DSi, we had so many iterations of the DS and probably everyone who has bought the first one bought another one they improved quite a bit. 

 

Most people will have 2 maybe one is broken or outdated, especially in Japan this plays a role. Infact everyone I kn ow who has a DS has atleast 2.

 

Some might have just one but some other have probably 3 or more. I think at best its 18 Million different people which own a DS. That would be 1/6 of the population and is pretty realistic.

 

It would be a good poll: How many DS do you own. Maybe I am wrong but what experienced is that multi-ownership is a giant factor especially with the DS and its many good improvments over the time. I havent seen the first DS for a long time.  

Most people have two..? Show some statistics if you are to make a point, please don't use anecdotal evidence. Even a poll on this site wouldn't be very useful, it's a self selected group of enthusiasts, self-selecting to post in the poll.



So why do you assume that multi-owner ship plays no a role ? I have atleast anecdotal evidence and I said I could be wrong. But you just think it doesnt play a role. Your point is as strong or weak as mine. 

 

Most people I know who have them had multiple DSes (Lite/i upgrade!), multiple PSPs (2000/3000 upgrade!), multiple 360s (RROD!) and multiple PS3s (YLOD! slim upgrade!).  Strangely though, they've all only had one Wii.



Yes you made a good point. The Wii is the perfect example the Wii didnt change much except recently the black one it had no hardware failures and no newly designed versions. But all othe gaming platforms have them.
Nintendo WANTS to sell new Nintendo DS to existing owners thats why they make those improvments the market are also existing owners. I mean why should someone buy a DSi if he wasnt interested in the DS ? And there is a special group which  buy three or more especially in japan were people love new hardware revisions and collect them. Lets speculate alittle:
5% of the Userbase bought atleast 3 DS over the years that means that 5% people accounts for 15% of all DS That means that 1.5 Million User bought 4.5 Million DS so we have just 25.5 Million left (its all just speculation).
Ok lets say that 10 Million DS user have one DS in Japan 1.5 Million have 3 so we have 14.5 Million DS and the other people have 2.
50,5% of the people (10 Million people) have ONE DS 7.5% (1.5 Million) have three DS42% (8.25 Million) would have two DS
So we have for example 19.75 Million Owners thats almost 1/5 of the population which makes sense to me. And Nintendos strategy would have worked. Its just an example but we know that Nintendo tries to sell their DS through improvments to existing owners thats why I doubt that for the Wii multi-owner ship plays yet a role because its reliable and the it has never seen an improvment.
Xbox360 has RRODS 
PS3 YLOD and Slim 
PSP has 2000/3000
Homeconsoles are probably to expensive so i dont think that Multiowner ship plays a big role. especially Handhelds are seen by the public and they are also a Lifestyle item and people pay a certain attention to what model it is.

Sure, but you're sort of skirting over my previous point... when DS owners "upgrade" they tend to recirculate their old system, and not just stuff it in a drawer or throw it in the garbage.  They trade it in or (more often according to Iwata) hand it down to a younger sibling, parent, spouse, friend, etc.  Iwata even talked about this at length, and said they view traditional gamers as a trojan horse help to introduce their products to a more expanded audience (this happens on Wii too btw, though not in the same exact way).  "Multiownership" probably can't account for figures even as high as you're suggesting... even though a good amount of people may have purchased multiple DSes, those DSes likely still aren't in the ownership of just that person and as a result the active userbase is still notably higher.