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So this is what I got out of reading some of these post. Wii 3rd party games are all shovel ware that sold more than a million. You do know if you ask a lot of those people that bought them would say? What do you mean they are fun games that me and my family/friends love to play. Then they would just tell you to shut up if you kept giving your reasons.

True gamers only play or soon will only play xbox/ps3. Well, I have played video games all my life. I assume that puts me in the real gamer section. I have owned/still own(2 different atari's, Nes, Snes, Sega Master system, N64, ps1,ps2,Gamecube, Wii. GB, GBC, GBA, DS, Gamegear and a couple random things with a few games on them. I have to many games to care to count. My choices this Gen are D.S. and the Wii. I like some of its "niche" titles its 1st party games, some of its 3rd party, and some of the Wiiware. They get used almost daily. A lot by me a lot from parties we have where people enjoy playing the Wii and drinking/having fun. I have yet to hear anyone say man I wish the Wii had more graphics or more mature games.

Anyways, people choose the games and systems to have fun. No such label works for any of them. If you like ps3/xbox great you made the right choice for you. Same as I feel I have made the right choice for me. And yes I myself enjoy some of these "casual" games.