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Mazty said:
killeryoshis said:
Mazty said:

No, technical improvement makes games better as you can refine an idea to be more like the reality you would want it to be e.g. compare GT1 to GT4.

The wii does nothing new or even well other than riding on the back of four games (Mario Galaxy, SSBB, NSMBW and Mario Karts), all which are fanboy titles and so would have been bought reguardless of quality. Mario Kart is a bad game as it has nothing to do with skill due to the blue shell, SSBB is just a cluster mess, NSMBW does nothing that LBP doesn't do better, but Mario Galaxy does look pretty good (only one I haven't played). I think something that says a lot about the wii is the amount of franchise titles on it and we all know franchise gaming = fanboys.

oh cut the crap. Your blinded byt the industry is telling you. What are the HD systems doing that couldn't be done on past consoles/systems?
Online- Nope X-Box could do that also PC did it for years
Graphics- They always go up so that crap is cutted out

SSBB- The game is a mess of fun if that's what you mean
MK:Wii- Blue shells don't make it soloely on luck. Blue shells come 2 to 3 times a round
NSMBW- The darn game had a better muiltplayer that's how it beats LBP

all these games use the wii's motion control to a way that it won't be as fun as a regualar controller.  The wheel is preety darn fun.
SSBB id the only game that barly uses motion control.

Super Mario galaxy wouldn't be easily done on a HD system. The wii pushes the way how we play games. That's how the system
is pushing the industry not your wallet

 

What are the HD consoles doing which couldn't have been done before? Easy - the HD consolea are giving me a more immersive gaming experience, as well as improving on ideas from the last generation. For example, Resistance 2 I'll compare to a similar run and gun shooter of last gen I loved - Red Faction 2. For me both single player parts were meh, but R2's still better as it looke dnicer, more variation in enemy, better AI, good array of weapons and so on. Now for the MP, R2 gives me a great online feature, with great map desing which does away with camping spots. Also the idea of moving spawn points and a fully balanced weapon system gives R2 a good stride over RF2 both technically and in ideas (balancing all weapons, moving spawn points etc). Some of it could have been achieved last gen, but hardly all of it, meaning an improvement in hardware allows for a game to be potentially better. Same can be said of Motorstorm 2, where the physics engine couldn't have been achieved on last gens hardware. Want a good comparison, just look at Killzone 1 & 2.

 

SSBB is just frantic button mashing - something that became boring to me once I realised repetition was boring as hell.
Its only a button masher if you play it like one. It involves tons of skill. Oh wait your a beginner
MK: Wii. Yes blue shells do. Unless you hang back in 2nd until the last few closing seconds, you are going to be knocked back a lot due to the blue shell - all it serves to do is slow down the leader, hardly making the game about skill, but just sheer luck.
Blue shells don't pop up commonly
NSMBW: Oh yeah LBP didn't have online play...oh wait. Smooth move, sherlock. Point is NSMBW does nothing new at all and the multiplayer was annoying as hell due to having to be on the same screen and bouncing off of each other.
NSMBW uses motion controls in a way that couldn't been done on other systems

The wheel has lag to it making it Mario Kart an exercise in frustration rather than precision driving.
You seem to suck at it than

How the hell does the wii push the way we play games? By making us jack-off air?? No, what changes how we play are games which come up with new innovations to genres, such as Halo:CE, GTA3 or Gears of War. All the wii has done, other than with Mario Galaxy, is make close to carbon copies of GC titles and given them a different controller. Yeah because that makes the games so much better!

Also I have sopme respones in your quote

@ Big letters

Tell me when you inverse what kind of things do you mean?

@ Black
Your telling me that if for some reason I wanted to put this game on the X box. I couldn't do it because of wepons and stuff?
You seem to confuse gameplay with graphics. Of course you'll get better physics in stronger hardware.
Online could've been done on X box. Don't bring that up. Map design is limited by the person not the hardware. Fully balanced weapons could be done only on HD systems how?


Your telling me that the wii is copying the GC? Nice. Unless your a game that couldn't take advantage of the motion control. There are no games on wii that could be done on the GC. Its nice when people say that nintendo games are copies. Yet isn't every sequal? Wii improves FPS.
That's one genre that's big on HD systems. It can improve in gameplay. That's what Zelda Wii is going to be about. A revolution. I bet my hgouse that Zelda wii will be game that uses Motion + so well that porting on other systems and keeping its quality will be near impoosible



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