MontanaHatchet said:
Isn't that your argument, though? That someone could have gay sex and not be gay because they choose to be straight? Someone who is gay has come over and told you to shutup. That's a pretty good sign that you're stepping on some toes. And saying that sex has nothing to do with sexuality is completely cheapening the physical and emotional impact it has. Whatever though. Maybe the issue of whether sexuality is decided from birth is something we'll never solve. Maybe no one is truly at one side or the other, and we all have certain levels of attraction to each sex. But it's just not possible to willingly have gay sex with someone and fit the current definition of straight, especially when it's for something as petty as college loans. Edit: Oh, and another thing. I just read your updated response to Seece. Being a contributor doesn't mean you can't tell someone to shut up. I'm a contributor, game database administrator, poll administrator, and a former mod, and I'd have no problem with telling you or anyone else to shut up. It's not against the rules at all (even if it may be looked down upon). But now I've found out that I might be disagreeing with Seece, so this could get tricky. |
No, my argument was that you are gay, not by physical rubbings of organs, but by wether or not you get a fucking boner or get horny for someone of the same sex.
If you are defining sexuality to be established through the act of sex, then you are saying we lack sexuality until we have sex, and that makes no fucking sense because we HAVE SEX, because of a PRE-EXISTING sexual orientation >.<
God dammit, I'm really getting pissed in this forum. It happened in the Bad Company thread, and now in this. People are extracting the completely wrong stuff from my posts.
Look I'm simplify it for you:
Sexuality is not by choice or action, but is within you as a result of nature.
As for the "stepping on toes", what a crock of shit. Really, a crock of shit. That's the same path that leads to censor ship, with religious people demanding others to not have their religion as a subject of conversation. If seece wanted only homo-sexuals to post here, and segregate out hetrosexuals, he should have gotten the mods to enforce that as a rule.
As for the shut up, did I ever invoke that he broke the rules? No. I don't think ANYBODY should break rules, as the point of rules are that they dictate what's punishable and non-punishable, not arbitrary personal decisions. My point was though, that it is poor behavior that takes away from the community, and that as a senior member and contributor seece should be setting positive examples.
Finally, to get back at the topic at hand, you realize though that you too agreed with me. When you were responding to my rape example, your point was consent, choice, DESIRE. My point was that rape DOESN'T make you gay, even though it involves the physical action of having gay sex, because the victim lacked any DESIRE for the same sex. You AGREED with me that purely PHYSICAL action does not constitute your sexual orientation.
It is only when you sexually desire the same sex (aka horny) are you gay. You can be gay before losing your virginity. You can be hetrosexual.
As for whether or not engaging in gay pornography makes you gay or not. If a Lesbian woman needed money and engaged in hetrosexual pornography, by choice, would you consider her to have done it out of desire for the opposite sex, or money?
Do I study because I desire the action of studying? Or because I want only the grade? Ditto for jobs, ditto for anything else.
Sheesh, again, let me sum up my point in a single sentence: Sexuality is by nature.
/rant
Sorry if it's disorganized, but man I get boiled up when people tell me to shut up, while not properly reading my posts.
