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KylieDog said:
Kasz216 said:
KylieDog said:
Kasz216 said:
KylieDog said:
Kasz216 said:

Well that kinda just defeats your whole arguement and proves my point doesn't it?  Afterall, this stuff, which used to be free... is now only free to some, and costs money to others.

No matter when it comes out, it's the removal of features previously provided.

The Devs have a voice, but the publisher has all the power.

 

No, you are posting nonsense theory as fact when it is in bullshit.

 

The game has the same number of maps DICE said it would early last year.  These maps were never part of the game, they were never free, they DID NOT EXIST. 

 

They were created for the purpose of the 'buy new' deal they decided upon.

DLC for BFBC1 was free to all.  DLC for BFBC2 is not free to all.

That in of itself is a feature removed from a previous game in the franchise.

 

 

Sorry but who is meant to care about this?  EA got no money from used buyers before andnow what?  They used buyers are going to refuse to buy the game?

 

I fail to see the threat.

 

If people wanna go to gamestop and buy a used game for $55 instead of a new one for $60 then is about time companies started rewarded the people who bother to pay the $5.

A) Yes, today, it's used players have to pay for the DLC.  For BFBC3... it's EVERYBODY has to pay for the DLC. 

 

B)Your missing the fact that Used sales drive New sales as well.

A lot of people who buy games, do so because they know that after they beat it, they can return them and get money to buy a new game.

Lower the demand for used games, and it lowers the demand to customers to sell used games, which lowers the money in the person who buys new's pocket and lowers his incentive to buy new.  People who buy used do in fact support the New game market.

 

 

A) Now you are just posting nonsense without a shred of anything to make such a claim.

 

B) People who BUY USED do not help the NEW GAME market.  The less used games there are the better for companies since it means if people want a game they'll need seek out a new copy if not enough used ones.

A) Except that's how it's always worked... you always need to protect the rights of the consumers.

B)  That's not true... read B again... and you'll see why.  Used markets very much do help new markets.   It's basic economic theory.

 

Here is an example for books.. it's the same with pretty much ANY market that has a secondary used market.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/28/technology/28scene.html

 

People buy New games knowing they can sell them back.  If they couldn't... chances are people who buy their games new would in fact buy less games new or possibly none at all.