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KylieDog said:
Onyxmeth said:
Akvod said:
Onyxmeth said:
Akvod said:
Here's the illogical reactions I'm seeing:

Scenario A:

EA releases DLC for $15

Reaction A:

Nobody fucking cares

Scenario B:

EA releases DLC for $15, and decides to give it away for free as incentive to new copy buyers

Reaction B: Outrage!

So the difference between the two scenarios, and the thing people are getting mad at is that:

EA IS GIVING AWAY SHIT FOR FREE.
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Then people start saying "Well, I'm going to be skeptical, and without any basis, assume that EA is withholding content".

But they'll say they got that from the completely unbiased source of Kotaku, and drop their skeptical mentality there.

Way to have double standards guys.


Since when has giving away shit for FREE considered as a BAD thing? All I see is people who feel they are entitled to anything they want, and demanding EA to give them shit for free as well.

Scenario C: EA give content for free for everyone like they did with Burnout Paradise.

Reaction C: Everyone thanks them, are super appreciative and say this is how other publishers should be.

 

Wut? So you're against DLC? Why don't we take that logic to expansion packs? Or maybe to entire games?

I'm not denying that reaction C will happen, I mean, that's why free stuff is great. But EA didn't just choose scenario B for no reason, it was a calculated incentive to get people to buy new copies. It benefits both the consumers who did find the value worth it, EA, and it does no harm to those who don't want to shell out either $15 for the DLC or $60 for a brand new game+free DLC.

Why did you choose to only address the smallest, most meaningless part of my argument and cut out the rest? That was just a silly alternative I cooked up because once upon a time, EA gave out free DLC to everyone, not just new game owners, and you thought it's either A or B, without any other options available.

The other portion is really what I wanted answered because it's what you've been talking about for two pages, that this wasn't on the disc of Bad Company 2. Madden has always had all original release content on the disc, especially the content that is the focal point of the release. Online franchises are advertised on the back of the Madden 10 box and nowhere on the box does it say there's a code to activate it or you have to pay extra. You don't find that to be bullshit? How is someone that isn't frequenting online forums supposed to know that? Not only that but what happens if EA screws up again and forgets to put the codes in the cases? That also happened when they did it in Madden 10.

I find it funny that you and Kylie both argued that this wasn't removed content, and then I bring forth an argument that suggests it very well could be, and you both choose to not address it. If EA was willing to go to those lengths with Madden, what makes you think they wouldn't go to the same lengths of removing in game content with the game they're pimping as a competitor to Modern Warfare?

 

I answered this on page 2 of the thread.

If EA and DICE had a disagreement about this... which side do you think would win said arguement?

 

Developers have no control over what the publishers make them do.