So who thought Sony was crazy when they said the PS3 will sell 13m for 2009

[joeorc]

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If 13 million per year is a crazy sell through, the expectations must be really low nowadays from Camp Sony.

13 million for the year is just being realistic in my opinion.

Pretty much what Sony big wigs were thinking when they were planning to do the price cut/Slim combo.

you stated this:

the expectations must be really low nowadays from Camp Sony.

13 million system's Sold through is not low at all. for a $299.00 priced system, that doese what the playstation 3 does.

hell would you call currently 8.48 million system's sold per year pretty low world wide because that's what the xbox360 is doint right now and the year is not even over with and it is projected to sell over 10 million system's for the year. would you call that low. 8 million system's a year is not something to sneeze at.

the first xbox was at in 4 year's roughly 26 million total system's sold through

that's 6.5 million system's sold a year

the top system sold last generation was the PS2 140 million /10 year's =

14 million per year, and that was the leader.

it's not too far fetched to think 13 million is now low it's pretty d@mn high since what the PS2 was able to do is 14 million per year would you call that low, when the PS2 was the last generation's leader in world wide console's sales?

bacuase you are using the peak (or near peak) for the PS3 numbers to compare to the average annual number of PS2. If PS3 would average 13 million after 10 year (or even 5 years), it would make more sense.

has the PS3 hit it's peak ?

that's the point many people think this generation is at it's peak based on previous generation which I do not think that's even remotely true at all.

 every one pointing out aligned sale's date per year when the PS3 is only been on the market for 2 year's in some cases and only 3.5 in the extreme.

and they alway's point to how the PS1 did or the PS2 did..

which is pretty pointless because the PS2 disd not start out at $500.00 or $600.00

the PS2 did not have as many incentives to purchase as the Playstation 2  did in it's 3rd year as the PS3 does, yes the PS2 had great game's a as a great incentive to purchase the system, but release the PS2 today or better yet launch the PS2 in 2005 how would it have done against the xbox360?

that's the big point the PS2 and the PS3 are not even in the same legue or even in the same sport.

 

You made an error by quoting an average for shipping figures, this might be Sony's peak year so it needs to be hitting peak year shipping figures of the PS2, not an average for comparisons sake.  You actually brought the PS2 into the discussion joeorc, so nobody else is misguided in comparing past and present it was your statement oringinally fella.

my point is why must the PS3  hit it's peak right now this year?

no  i brought in the PS2 for sale's because many people refer to system's "PEAK" YEAR BASED ON THE PREVIOUS SYSTEM'S DATA!

which you cannot expect that to be the case because already this generation has broke so many of those past trend's there is no real way to even compare the two , but many seem's to do just that when they view these generation's system's peak year. because previous generation peak year's seem to be 5 th year.

Previous generation's did not have the last place system getting the development support that the PS3 is getting

last generation did not have a $500.00 or $600.00 game console sell as well as the Playstation 3 has

it's not the same generation.

Please see the bolded part in Red.

The fact remains that you use the best annual number PS3 has so far to compare to the average annual number for PS2.

and since the ps3 has only bin in the market 3 .5 year's total. did the PS3 start out at an entry price of $300.00?

no?

was the PS2 xbox360, or game cube ERA have a homeforeclosure, and unemployment #'s as high as it is right now?

no?

so what should you use for the average?

the PS3 has only been on the market at most 3,5 year's an that is not even every where in every region

that's like saying well takinging in aligned launches, yea you could but yet again the PS2 was not @$500.00

inflation 10 year's ago to to day would not be the big point it's the IDEA you as the Consumer would have to pay $500.00 or $600.00 that same thing would have had the same effect on the PS2 as it did on the PS3 because many consumer's will only pay what they feel they can pay.

$500.00+ is still $500.00

that perception has not changed even from 10 year's ago

and people expected Sony to think that that would be any different today as it would have been back than?

 

So basically you are saying based on the high price, the shitty economy, the countries that PS3 is not in, inflation doesn't count and all other factors, you can't really compare the average numbers for PS3 to the average number for PS2 but comparing one year nnumber of PS3 to average number of PS2 is ok.

no..what I am pointing out there is to many thing's that seperate this gen from last generation with the short ammount of time we have had in this generation, that the Data about when a system's going to hit it's peak, or how long one system is going to be on the market is subjective on each persion's opinion, and I think there has not been enough time for these system's in the market to come to a conclussion about when each system's peak year will be, based on that you cannot point out a downward trend for the system sale's yet because we have In my opinion we have not even come close to the current game system's peak year and I do not think we are even close to it. even next year.

thus there is not enough data by looking at past trend's to get a accurate time line for these current system's peak year which pretty much throw's out the "because the PS1, AND PS2 TRENDED THIS WAY THE PEAK YEAR FOR THE ps3 SHOULD BE HERE.

yes I Understand people has that opinion about why they think the PS3's peak year is this year, but I do not agree with it based on what Data we have right now.