Using "reconciliation" for healthcare

[mrstickball]

Soleron said:
Yes, it's wrong.

But socialised healthcare is needed, immediately. If the Democrats only do one thing with their term it has to be healthcare; they've had everything else blocked by the Republicans and their concessions to "bipartisanship" have not been returned in kind.

(From the UK, where the NHS is possibly the only good thing in the whole country. Have experienced the American system; the inequality between rich and not-rich on health is massive and costs the whole country more in the long run [healthy workers benefit everyone]).

I don't think paying out billions we don't have is going to make the country better off.

If we want socialized healthcare, we need to reduce costs first and make it viable to socialize. If it is socialized in its current form (which costs the government $7,500 per Medicare recipient) it will destroy our system, and then the government will either raise taxes immensely, or reduce what the system actually provides....Which will not be better in either case.

And Soleron, I find it odd you say our government spends huge and wasteful amounts of money on public healthcare, yet you say we need more of it. So you want even more wasteful money spent on healthcare? Is your desire to see America ruined?