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jneul said:
I dunno what good employers pay, but my old boss was a skinflint used to give me 20k a year for being a software programmer, but i quit due to the stress, and the way they treated me

thats decent in here , here we made 1400-1800$ for software developers

and many even start at 800$ monthly.

engineers got 1800-4000$+

 

about how they treat you, yeah, software people are always pulled down, because they think programing it's "easy"

well it is, for people that like it.