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rocketpig said:
huaxiong90 said:
rocketpig said:
I tend to shrug off nostalgia for franchises. Doom II was great and is one of my favorite shooter experiences of all time but that won't stop me from calling Doom III a complete piece of shit, which it was.

Metal Gear may have been one of the first stealth games (and a nearly impossible one at that) but since MGS, the franchise has wavered quite a bit while games like Thief and Splinter Cell offered superior gameplay (though without the sometimes endearing Kojima quirks).

Oh I understand that. Also, in case I didn't make it clear, I do think Splinter Cell has the superior gameplay since you HAVE to make use of your equipment where as in Metal Gear (especially MGS4) the gadgets you get are gimmicky for the most part. But it's the presentation, story, and Kojima's hilarious and unique wackyness that I've come to truly appreciate. Not a single one of Kojima's games to this day, IMO, is truly lacking, compared to Doom III.

I mean, hell, I haven't really played many online games that encourage as much teamwork as MGO (not to mention it's also quite unique and works well at the same time). It's just a shame that with MGO2 Konami's support is complete shit. Wasn't sufficiently tested.

I didn't mean to compare Doom III to any of the MGS games because I found parts of every MGS game enjoyable while I hated almost the entirety of Doom III. My problem with MGS2-4 is that each game had a serious deficiency... in MGS2, it was playing as Raiden and the God-awful story. In MGS3, the story was vastly improved but the controls were so outdated that it was infuriating to play. In MGS4, the stealth elements were almost an afterthought and I ended up playing the second half of the game more like I did GRAW than a stealth game.

Ah, Doom 3.  Loved the tech, for some reason the monitors you could actually activiate and use particularly impressed me, the lighting, the animation... pretty much everything apart from the actual game especially the monsters in closets.  Pity, really.  And whatever happened to those cool interactive monitors?  Apart from Doom 3 and Quake 4 I can't remember them being used anywhere else.



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...