Capcom laments DVD capacity - Lost Planet 2 compromised

[joeorc]

johnsobas said:

joeorc said:

johnsobas said:
yea if 360 went HDDVD they would be way way behind in market share and would have lost way more money. Not exactly win/win. The only people that it helps is Sony.

see that's the big problem, you say lost market share, an would have lost way more money would be a non win win, let's just examin that

one the xbox360 released before the PS3, so if HD DVD was installed right from the get go inside the xbox360 there would have been a jump start for Toshiba to have a much stronger relation, and more leverage to the movie production companies to go with HD DVD instead of Blu-Ray because a year's head start would have granted HD DVD more sales installbase. the same way it also helped the Blu-Ray format because of the PS3 being released right off the bat even though in 2003 Blu-Ray was first released to the consumer in Asia it was not released to everyone and was mainly for recording instead of used as a movie playback format until the Blu-Ray founder's decided one the spec's in 2004 for movie standard's for HD optical disc distribution. back than Blu-Ray was the favored format but If Microsoft would have gone with HD DVD for one Microsoft's IHD control scheme would be the main software for HD TOPSET BOXES instead of BD-java that Blu-ray player's and recorder's use.

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Not only that but many of the developer's game's designed would have less of a problem with storage issue's for their project's IF HD DVD was used from the get go

this just boil's down too Microsoft knew there would be some risk both way's , though HD DVD would have been a much more of a risk, just like it was for Blu-Ray with more of an upfront cost for the unit but over time it prob. would have been a better over all choice even if Microsoft and Toshiba did not come out on top with HD DVD it still would have been an over all better solution in the long run over time than HD DVD for optical disc distribution cost's to developer's.

That doesn't solve the market share issue, 360 would have been stomped if they released with HD DVD.  They would have been forced into a $600 launch price like the PS3 and a 2005 launch would have been impossible.  That is a recipe for epic fail.  Sony is the one who should have not put blu-ray in PS3, then we wouldn't even be talking about this, PS3 could have launched at $400 quite possibly making a profit from the start, and market share would have been much higher.

Instead we are arguing about tiny things like putting things on DLC instead of on the disc, and lower resolution FMVs and compressed sound.  That's really not worth the trouble. 

epic fail is not what i would call over 29+ million system's sold in under 4 year's a failure when this generation is pretty much just getting started.

see that's also kind of short sighted, To view it as such, would you call the xbox which sold 25 million in 4 years a failure? think about this since the xbox360 has been released the xbox360 in 5 year's has roughfly 37+ million system's world wide that mean's it grew it's install base by

that means 3 million install base was added per year to the xbox brand over its origional 25million xboxuser's since the brand was first started so in almostt 5 year's not they only grew by 12 million would you acall that a fail? I would not but some would.

I see many people seem to somehow think Sony expected to sell the PS3 at $500.00 and $600.00 to expect to be the market leader? There is no way they would have expected that , that's like saying car dealer's of the LINCON would expect it to sell more and faster than the town car! there is no way in hell that would happen

an there is no way in Hell in my Opinion that Sony did not know this.

In my opinion

this generation is more of a dynamic stable market that market share only inflates a false sense of we are number one "right now" but what happen's in 4 year's, 5 year's after you release the system.?

take this as an example:

when the new system's get released what happen's to your sale's of your current system?

in previous generation's there was more of a drive for an upgrad to the hardware sooner rather than later unless your in the number 1 spot., but on the same token there is more devices on the market than there was 5 year's ago all competing for your time as a gamer and your money. thus the market share will shrink per product, but not your over all market share. pointing out one product's market share is kind of pointless when your main product is expected to be on the shelf longer than 5 or 6 year's at a time. an this is not just one product when you have 3 or more it's going to already reduce each product's market share just with number of product's you have not even taking into account other product's.

that's why they have their business plan in place and it's more than a couple year's apart for console's since you know it's going to take more time to put out new system's

to think otherwise is pretty much going back and making changes to your plan more time's over.

this Generation has many thing's outside of the game's console's market that is directly effecting it and how that market is going forward.

example:

HD alot of people see, well there is few set's being sold of 1080p back in 2007 one of the many statement's blu-ray and HD DVD are not needed, but with the switch from Analog broadcast over to digital, there need's to be IF you want HD recording and HD playback to take advantage of HD broadcasting you need these new HD TV set's and HD upconversion DVD and or HD Optical disc playback. That is IF YOU WANT HD.

but if you notice even the main new's on regular TV is broadcast in HD now, the new studio's added extra function's for HD TV's to take advantage of more an more HD tv's are being produced and at a much cheaper cost.

Right now both The xbox360 and Playstation 3 are HD enabled system's but 3 to 4 year's from now how will each system hold up to their new counterpart's?

would the majority of current user's from each system's install base support the new system over the current?

what would make gamer's go out an buy the next upgraded box right away instead of waiting? would the next system so muchso overshadow the current system's that the current system sale's would dry up so fast there would be no room on the shelf for it?

UNlike previous generation's these systems today have the hardware and infrastructure to last much longer and be more of a viable solution on the shelf far longer than any previous generation of game console's. thus

saying FAIL this early in the console cycle is kind of premature to say the least