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Zucas said:
Kasz216 said:
In otherwords... the old proofs don't exist anymore.

New proofs need to be discovered if it's true.

And that's all I'm saying, but we also need to start thinking about the "character" of Mr. Phil Jones here.  If he is untrustworthy to begin with then who knows now.  But I agree new data needs to be found before we do anything.


Well to be fair he still claims that global warming is happening. He was just forced to admit a bunch of stuff... like they destroyed the orginal data and that since 1995 there hasn't been statistical evidence of global warming. Which is troubling since the current theory on global warming is an escalation effect. That it keeps getting hotter and hotter worse and worse. Since that's how climateology works. First the effect is 1, then it's 2... then you've got 2 in the air so it caues a rise in 4. 4 in the air causes 4 more to join it, 8 causes 8 to join it the next year etc. For global warming to be statistically insiginificant since 95 it really means 1 of 3 things. 1) the methods/data are flawed... this is data we actually have data for, so it'd have to be a methods issue. 2) The earth has suddeny entered a MASSIVE natural cooling phase. 3) The earth has suddenly stopped through a massive heating phase and the human effect is negilgable. (More likely then 2 based on the other data.)