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Zucas said:
sguy78 said:
 

But this isn't the only thing that is bringing this house of cards down. The e-mails that were leaked of these scientists showed they were destroying evidence before other people could get a hold of it.

Well let's not sink the whole boat before we know we hit something.  A composition fallacy is where you assert what is true of one part is true of the whole.  Meaning, jsut becuase a little part like this may have come out, we can't assume the whole is false.  It's a fallacy that a lot of people like to use to disprove god as they find something that disproves a part of stated existence of god and then use it to assert it as the whole disproval.  Yes this is damning of the theory but it doesn't disprove the whole theory.  As I said, let's wait for more data to be compiled or data that supercedes other data before we start making truth claims.  Or basically, let's not make the same mistake Mr. Phil Jones made here.

I don't think we are arguing here. These scientists are saying this "science" has been settled, and it obviously has not been. I'm just saying I want proof, and it hasn't been given. They are saying the sky is falling, give us binding agreements to redistribute your wealth around the world to stop it. I don't think industrialized countries such as the U.S. should be put at a disadvantage, when China and India are emerging as major industrial powers, and are laughing at this.