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joeorc said:
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In fact, they don't explicitly say that it involves the Xbox 360. Given the port job Capcom did on Lost Planet for PS3, it is entirely plausible that they had to duplicate too much data for the PS3 given it's Blu-Ray drive's slow read times.

Ultimately though, we know what this is. Hisiru pointed it out. They are just finding ways to make money. If they really made stuff THEN cut it they would offer it as free DLC. But they will actually have set out to have DLC from the beginning.

Certainly by all accounts it is inexpensive to have a game with two discs, Microsoft only charges substantial costs for three or more.

No, thats pretty much BS. Please try again.

yup. it is think about this

the xbox360's drive speed is a 12x CAV

the PS3's BLU-RAY DRIVE is also a 8X DVD CLV drive beside being also a 2x Blu-Ray drive

the xbox360 speed can only get to it's max speed  the very outer edge's of the DVD disc itself upto that point the speed

is no way near 12x it's arround 8x with dip's to 5x than that matter's what type of DVD it's reading a DL or single layer DVD.

while the Blu-ray drive is a constant speed  no matter where on the disc

a 2x Blu-Ray drive transfer's speed as fast as a 8x speed DVD drive

so how is it that the blu-ray drive's are slow reading drives again?


Ps3 = Blue ray 2x             9MB/s

X360 = Dvd 12x                16'2 MB/s

a 2x Blu-Ray drive transfer's speed as fast as a 8x speed DVD drive

no sir.

dvd 8x  10'8MB/s

correction:

you are thinking of it as a CLV which the xbox360's drive speed is not . like i said that the xbox360's transfer speed is  not constant..which in the PS3 it is.

where as the PS3's optical drive is: 9MB/sec CLV

the XBOX360 DRIVE data transfer is not at a constant transfer speed of 16MB/sec

and the average

8X DVD SPEED IF ITS A CAV IS 5.7 Which  IS 7.8 MB/sec and it only reaches that max speed if the disc is completely full, and if its on the outer most part of the disc. and this average reading speed is even slower if reading from DL-dvd's .

if you do not think so

look up the DRIVE SPEED's  this is  in scott mueller's upgrading an repairing pc's page 776-777

17th ed.

scott's textbook Its right on my shelf right now

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I have been using it for year's

 for example:

so let's take the 12x speed of the xbox360 optical drive

it can transfer 16,6 MB/sec the average speed is 8.5 the average transfer rate is 11.7 MB/sec  the max of 16 MB/sec is only seen on the outer most part of the disc.

and this is a optimistic average speed only if the entire disc is full.

if its not than it would be even slower. why do you think microsoft section's off part of the disc in the first place.

 

sorry dude but It can transfer at almost double the speed or just faster than blue ray depending on where the developer places the data in the disc. And you know the most data of the disc is placed in the outer part.


Blu-ray 2x: 72Mbp / 8MBps
12x DVD: 66 - 132Mbps / 8.2 - 16.5MBps



Maybe it's the fact that Sony was once on top of the mountain in this industry, and the fall from grace has been swift and brutal. The worst thing about being on top is the fall to the bottom, and maybe the transition from PS2 dominance to PS3 heel-dragging has had a damaging effect on the fanboy psyche, leaving them vulnerable and insecure. Maybe fanboys are suffering from a severe case of paranoid delusion, brought about by denial that the PS3 is in third place when once Sony was leading the charge.

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