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TRios_Zen on 16 February 2010
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LordChris915 said:
TRios_Zen said:

I see a couple of faults in your argument:

1)  The 360 advertisement does not claim exclusivity (see bolded above), so no one IS BEING decieved.  Final Fantasy XIII is available on the 360, this ad informs people of that, period.

2)  American businesses are almost to a fault, concerned only with the bottom line.  Very few public companies will pander to the home economy based solely on American nationalism.  If there is some fiduciary incentive to do so, they may, but to suggest that Corporate America is in any way a nationalistic industry, speaks some to your lack of real world knowledge regarding this.

The company I work for is global with offices all across the US, in the EU, as well as Japan, Australlia and South America.  I have worked on numerours global teams and had the benefit of working with a lot of great people from all over the world.  Additionally, while pursuing my MBA, I focused on multinational studies. 

With all my experience...well to me, you generallizing an opinon on a whole nation of people based upon some study you did for school...the hubris there is mind boggling.

As to the op, how quicly people forget that subsidized marketing like this happens all the time; and it is just as frequently Sony that does this as Microsoft.  The only thing desperate I see, is the sad blog responsible for this, deseperately seeking hits.

Had you read my original post, you would be aware that i was talking about the fact that the FFXIII advert did not mention other consoles that the games was available on, this is misleading and ultimately decieving because it markets the game as if it were exclusive.

In this case there is almost certainly fiduciary incentive.

"To suggest that Corporate America (I was mainly refering to the media but it still applies in a smaller way) is in any way a nationalistic industry, speaks some to your lack of real world knowledge regarding this." I can only speak from my own experience and the experience of those I know, truth of the matter is that Corporate America will go where the consumers are, if the consumers exhibit nationalism in their buying tendancies, the corporations will become somewhat nationalised in their marketing and business ventures, this is true of most companies the world over.

"you generallizing an opinon on a whole nation of people based upon some study you did for school" To be fair, it was a very big project that took months of research to complete, granted it is from a British viewpoint, but I have never claimed it to be otherwise, also I do not mean to generalise, it's just a habit that emerged from my fear of sounding pedantic.

"Sony that does this as Microsoft." Very true, I only wish they would do it more often!

Might I add that I value you input more than some of the earlier comments I recieved.

Sorry I couldn't respond sooner, work got in the way!  I enjoy even-minded debate and as you seem willing, I'll respond to your points.

1)  I did read your original post and I think this is the only point we completely disagree on; the lack of advertising a competitors product is not tantamount to deception, and only the most simple minded of viewers would believe this to be some claim of exclusivity.

2)  I agree that Corporate America will go where the consumers are, but American consumers are not nationalistic.  Our trade deficit is one of the largest in the world...  foreign cars dominate sales, consumer electronics brands are all foreign as well.  To some extent I agree with others: the American market was Sony's for the taking...if they had not tried to shove an overpriced piece of hardware through to the market this generation would be vastly different.  As it is, the Wii (which dominates American hardware sales) and the 360 offered cheaper, viable alternatives.  This has nothing to do with American consumers wanting to buy American products.

3)  I did not mean to insult your studies: as one who has pursued higher education, I absolutely underdstand the value of academia.  I only offer this: look at the UK and use your marketing knowledge to assess how you would have to tailor a message differently to folks from say Glassgow versus Londonites.  It would be hard for you to generalize anything about British people that would apply to absolutely everyone.  The US has roughly 30 times the land mass and 4 times the number of people.  Do you honestly think you could generalize how the media would affect us all?  I live in Texas and am innundated with the same media, laws, and politics of the rest of America and yet I still often wonder what the hell my Boston colleagues are thinking!