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squilliam said:

1. I've never heard of 4 red ring, it can't be that common, 2 is overheating which may be intermittant and both one and 3 ring are covered by the 3 year warranty. They haven't scratched discs in years during reasonable operation and they have to shut down the original Xbox Live to add support for new features on the Xbox 360. Arcade model is not useless to buy as it comes with storage and hardly anyone plays fighting games anymore anyway, and if you're serious you can get a fighting stick or fighting pad which you ought to be doing anyway. Two many SKUs? There are only two and that can't be hard. Also most people don't use wireless so they can be forgiven for leaving it out of the feature list.

2. PS3 price was not too high, its appeal was too low. The Xbox 360 doesn't come with HD cables either.

3. Online and HD graphics aren't important enough considerations for the kind of gamer who buys these machines. DVD payback is expensive, at about $6 per Wii which comes out to about $360,000,000 so far that they haven't paid in royalties. Online demos/DLC aren't in their target markets either

---you make a very good argument for all 3 consoles...i agree 360 has made plenty of progression since its first screwup. and true there aren't many people playing fighting games the only decent ones out now are tatsunoko vs capcom and you can argue street fighter 4 too. but the d-pad is still terrible however most games are built around it so there's no real problem there. and what i meant when i said too many sku's was referring to the whole 360 cycle which has had more than 2.
---the ps3 appeal was low when it first came out and is slowly growing. and if i remember correctly the 360 did come with component cables in the pro and elite just not HDMI cables.
---and you're absolutely right that the average wii owner doesn't care about online or HD because both are not necessary to enjoy the console. getting 4 friends together for new mario bros wii helps prove that...and nintendo did omit dvd to turn more profit and it wouldn't matter much because who doesn't own a dvd player? I still would like online demo's though its nice to get a feel for the gameplay for free before you buy a game.