twesterm said:
tarheel91 said:
twesterm said:
tarheel91 said:
twesterm said:
tarheel91 said:
twesterm said:
Reason #5: Cheaper-- They show a picture of Diner Dash, Cubis 2, Solitaire, and other crap games. Those don't really count.
Reason #4 Controls-- Oh, I get it, satire!
Reason #3 Old games -- Oh wait, they're serious now?
Reason #2 Online WoW -- meh
Reason #1-- Satire again!
Yeah, I don't see myself embracing PC gaming any time soon.
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You don't honestly think a normal console controller is better for a FPS or RTS do you?
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Why yes I do actually (well not for RTS, but I haven't played an RTS in 7 or 8 years so I don't care so much).
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In what regard? I used to be a pure-console gamer myself until maybe 3 years ago. I find console controllers both more difficult to use/less precise and less enjoyable. Mouse + keyboard allows for much quicker movements, and the gameplay is changed for the better for me. I didn't know anyone felt otherwise. With the Wii, you might be able to make the argument that it's more enjoyable, but that's debatable at best, and there's no denying mouse + keyboard is king when it comes to performance.
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Are you trying to tell me my opinion is wrong?
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First, let me say no, I was simply asking in what regard you saw them as better. I feel that mouse + keyboard is both better performance-wise and more enjoyable, so I was asking for you to explain your opinion.
Second, why the hell does everyone seem to think an opinion can't be wrong or can't be challenged? Just because they're your personal thoughts or feelings on a matter doesn't make them automatically unassaillable. If I said I think a Toyota Camry is a better car to drive around a track than a Ferrari FXX, that being my opinion doesn't change the fact that it's completely wrong. The only time opinions really become difficult to argue about is when it comes to things completely subjective like enjoyment. However, your response to controls, "Oh, I get it, satire!" suggests that there is a far more powerful reason why PC controls suck, and I want to know what it is. Surely you can't completely dismiss a reason because you don't personally enjoy using mouse + keyboard when I'm sure you're aware everyone else feels very differently when it comes to certain genres.
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I absolutely agree that there are things that are fact and not opinion, controller vs Mouse+Keyboard isn't one of them. The thing about facts is that you can absolutely prove them, you cannot prove that mouse and keyboard are better than controllers. It's absolute opinion. Nothing else. I know, I know, PC lovers love to point out shooters and RTS's but what's funny is they always ignore platformers and fighters like they don't exist.
As for my original comment, I was being goofy and bored. The picture they showed was a monstrosity and as stupid as showing Diner Dash in their previous picture.
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Ok, I think I misunderstood you a bit, then. However, I think in many senses controller vs. mouse+keypad isn't entirely subjective. There's no denying that performance wise mouse + keyboard is supreme(i.e. if two players of equal skill player each using different controls, the one with mouse+keyboard would win) when it comes to certain genres like FPS and RTS. While that is certainly not true for all or even most genres, that isn't the point. The article's argument was why you still need a gaming PC, not why a PC is better for gaming. I see the mouse+keyboard's superior performance in certain genres as a very solid arguement for why it remains necessary. Interaction in a FPS or RTS should be based on the player's limitations (e.g. reflexes, thinking, etc.) not slow or inadequate controls.
