Xoj said:
r505Matt said:
Xoj said:
r505Matt said:
1. So what if MS wants to build themselves as a gaming platform instead of a developer? Is there really something wrong with that? I think it's better that way, keep things seperate. All of those Sony companies can only make for Sony's platform. This is a little extreme, but what if everything were 1st party? Would that be a better situation to you?
2. Why is that a copout? They're all businesses. At the end of the day they have to be profitable, whatever they do to do it, that's all that matters to them. Otherwise, the company (or at least a division of that company) will cease to be. They don't compete over how many customers they have, or who is the 'nicer' business to deal with. It's all about the money.
3. I think the OP's idea is interesting; I don't think it's that 'haphazard'.
4. And rushing development was a mistake. They know that, they have acknowledged that. How long until you forget about that? 10 years? 50? They've fixed RRoD in their newer consoles, and they extended their warranty to cover for their past consoles. I think that's as much as any company should do.
5. Why should a platform developer take that kind of risk? Is that some kind of strange requirement in your head for a good gaming platform company? There are already SOOOO many games out there, too many to fully play all of them, and you want MORE made? Not to mention, I'm not a big fan of Sony's first party. Uncharted 1 and 2 are essentially just 2 $60 movies with mediocre gunplay, and good platforming, if a bit simple/easy. How long has GT5 been in the making?
Don't get me wrong, I don't like MS any more than I like Sony (they're equal in my book), but I think MS has a stronger/better business plan.
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no one who have played u2 would say something like that.
since when being polished game hurt? GT5 looking like no other game racing game ever.
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Which part about U2? The gunplay feels off compared to other TPS (ME2, Gears 2). I like the platforming/climbing, but it's almost as easy as AC, you just need slightly better eyes. And it's a very cinematic game, plenty of people have said it's too much of a movie, and not enough of a game to them.
Personally, I like U2, I don't think it's as good as all the big fans make it out to be though. Then again, I haven't finished it yet (only get to play it twice a month at my cousin's place). We'll be finishing it tonight actually.
Nothing wrong with polishing, and I'm sure it will look good. But I don't want to wait 5+ years for the next iteration in a good franchise.
Also, there are FAR more important things than graphics.
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it does all those at the same time, with fluid animations, TPS, cover system platforming , hand to hand fighting, and run & gun the game even retains that on multiplayer and it excels at each point. many things other developers have problems for years, they did it all in one game.
there isn't anything off about gunplay, its a TPS
and GT5 isn't taking 4 years because of graphics alone, the game have now weather, damage, day/night cycles nascar, wrc,900 cars+ and more.
til now GT5P still is the only games that does 1080p 60fps x2 and 720p x4 msAA
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This is getting off topic:
To both U2 and your GT5 comments, that's still a lot of graphics/visual stuff, the least important part of a game to me. Yeah, I know GT5 has a lot of cars, that's cool I guess.
That's cool about the 1080p 60fps etc. etc. Still Visuals. Visuals are not the most important part of a game. The Wii's domination of the gaming market proves that.
For U2, in terms of a TPS, it's weaker than Gears or ME2 (much much better than ME1 though). The cover system feels very very clunky to me, but there's something else that feels 'off' in U2's gunplay. Not sure what it is though, I'll try to keep it in mind for later tonight when I play it again.
As a game, I think U2 isn't anything special. As a gaming experience, it does pretty well. But it's so similar to the first game, only more over-the-top.
Anyways, this is totally off topic, so if you want to talk more about it, feel free to message me.
