is there any news on the current model for the 360's loss/profit? Also Microsoft could drop the price of the 360 by a fifty any time they wanted... my guess though if they get Valhalla out (GPU on CPU) Xbox Arcade will be 200 with Natal and Elite will be 200 with HDD. Also if they made the console smaller where would they put the HDD? They would have to keep the general thickness though they could bring it in considerably and maybe shorten it. Another though is putting the HDD on the back of the console or have a depression on top that you can put it in and then slide a piece over to hide it... though I would prefer SSD for new 360Slims