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CommonMan said:
I wish I could be a priest, I think Jesus kicks ass. I'm not a Christian but I love his message, that a whole bunch of Christians seem to have selective memory about. Or just add stuff to, "Jesus said to love everyone. . . but not gays. . ." See, Jesus didn't say that second part.

It's funny when people say this, because Jesus made it clear his purpose was to spread the gospel and die for our sins so we could be with the Lord. People try to water him down as some sort of hippie whose message was just love and conveniently forget that he set forth a very strict moral code for us to live by. Jesus made it very clear to obey and listen to God's word, and which clearly states that acts of homosexuality are a great sin. Jesus treated all with love, but he never excused immorality. What the pope said should not be a surprise to anyone, since he, above all others(at least from a catholic point of view), dedicates his life to the church that Christ instituted here on earth.

And as for a few other things in this thread...

The whole "I believe in God/Jesus but not in organized religion"-line doesnt fly if you really believe in the teachings of God/Jesus. The Christian church is an institution began by Christ(as mentioned above). You cannot say you are a beliver in Christ and his teachings, but demonize the very church he began, since that is in opposition to his teachings.

About the supposed priest who belives in the teachings of Jesus but is an athiest: if this is true he wont be a priest for long. You cannot be catholic/christian, much less a priest, unless you fully accept the teachings of Christ. Among the teachings of Jesus were that He was the Son of God and that the way to salvation was through Him only. This is another case of "I belive in Jesus, the man and His teachings, but all the stuff I'm not comfortable with I will conveniently ignore".

And the catholic church does not hate homosexuals, rather it teaches compassion and acceptance to homosexuals. However, the church does not accept the "gay" lifestyle/practicing homosexuality as being morally acceptable.

Not trying to rile folks up, as I think its best leave this stuff out of sites like this, but SOME(not all) of the people in this thread I saw defending the pope/catholicism/christianity didnt exactly do a bang-up job(though I did not read all of the thread and did read some good posts). I figure if it's ok to slam, slander, and make false statements about my faith, it's certainly acceptable to defend it.

That being said, anyone up for some Burgertime?



"I feel like I could take on the whole Empire myself."