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Zucas on 02 February 2010
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MontanaHatchet said:
Zucas said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Zucas said:
MontanaHatchet said:
I was actually going to go off here, but I'll let the half dozen other people tell you how wrong you are (like they just did). My life is so easy.

Haha you couldn't have pulled it off anyways but effort counts.  But the rest of us are actually have a civilized conversation if you ever wish to inject some logic in and join a very interesting discussion.

Wow, your arrogance is incredible. You used to be one of my favorite members, but you've become so cocky and bullish that you've gone way downhill in my eyes. After ripping apart your arguments (even the stupid part about technology vs. social progress, which you had no good rebuttal for), you still act like somehow you were winning our debates, or that I'm illogical.

So how is it up there on your idealogical throne? Comfy? We're all trying to explain to you why the thing you described doesn't happen. I've already explained it through my posts. What else is there to say?

Wow all you did was commit a false dichotomy and you act like your entire world has been flipped upside down.  Man up.  It's getting pathetic. 

Now, I'm willing to hear your argument again if you don't mind posting it, again but you act as if you making a mistake is impossible.  No one is infallible.

I didn't. And you're proving my point, by the way. Not just with this post, but your previous one. Let me quote you:

"Well my answer to that is once again you are pretending you have exhausted all options when clearly you haven't. It's a good thing I'm smart enough to know that, otherwise this world would be in an even worse situation."

The italicized and underlined line demonstrates exactly what I'm talking about. I mean, what happened? You got to college and now you think you're some kind of idealistic genius, or something? Get over yourself. By the way, I already posted my argument several posts back. You've still failed to provide a decent rebuttal, just how I'm wrong and you're right with no decent explanation (again). While I'd love to completely re-write my debate (due to you being lazy), I don't want to have it answered with more questions and idealogical cliches.

To just reach common ground, because I take this discussion seriously not just petty differences of opinions, I'll agree I'm being arrogant.  But that doesn't make what I say any less credible.  Still an opinion and still one that should be taken seriously until proven otherwise.  You could scream an opinion, but it's not how about how it is presented, only what it is saying.  But, just in my own defense, I'm not presenting it this way to piss of people, just to show them that they can't take the easy way out.  I mean too many times (mainly in political discussions) people think they can get out of a serious answer by simply crafting one like a rhetorician would.  I don't want that in my threads.  I don't need a politician's answer.  I need an actual one. 

Your first post gave me an actual answer except for the last part which I showed you what the problem was with it in a very reasonable manner.  Now once again just for the sake of diplomacy, I'll go back, take both of your posts, and answer them.  Even though I've already commented on one which you did not reply to (funny considering you also complain about  me ignoring yours yet you do the same) and then this discussion can get back on track. 

Not I'm not trying to be rude or arrogant or anything, I'm just wanting people to think and think critically.  I mean no harm or no personal offenses to anyone.  If anyone has felt that, well then I'm sorry that what I said made that happen.