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Kasz216 on 02 February 2010
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Xelloss said:
Kasz216 said:
Xelloss said:
jarrod said:
ioi said:
Well in fairness we have the likes of Madworld, Conduit, Valkria (and probably Bayonetta if that pattern is anything to go by) higher than NPD by reasonable amounts so I'm not entirely in disagreement with NPD seeming to undertrack core Sega stuff by 10-30%.

Fair enough, and I don't take NPD as gospel myself.  I think we've already talked their troubling Wal-mart multiplier method actually.

I just find the source of this figure (who also threw out multiple fallacies in the same podcast) to be rather questionable.  And then this invented Siras vs NPD false dichotomy... it's like wtf?  Who even said that? :/

 Hmm which fallacies again? I just rmember the Yakuza voice thing being brought up, which was quickly dispelled. Care to take the time to bulletpoint the actual fallacies?

At this point I think your trying a little too hard.  You were complaing about people with a "wii bias"... but honestly it's painfly obvious that you very much want valkria chronicles to have sold more that this to a very large degree. 

I'm not sure your the most objective person to be argueing at said point.

The Yakuza thing was never adequetly dispelled...

listening to the podcast... he does sound pretty clueless honestly.

Nah was just curious. If you guys are not aware of the contract implications of using original voicework, theres not much I am willing to do to dispell it. Do a little research and you will find it takes money, also - the sum he referred to included voice talent contracts but covered the whole scope of localization not just voice.

Anyhow, I wouldnt make to many assumptions of my motivations. You will just embarass yourself.

On a final note, its time to bow out of this thread. Its turning into the same shitthread the Wii thread did, for the same reasons. Even if some folk are right and the Wii is a viable platform for 3rd parties and mature games, it does not mean that certain publishers do not have ample reason to think differently. And it is certainly not a good excuse to throw up armies of straw men every time this guys name is mentioned.

 

Which would be great if that was what he was talking about... which it wasn't... if you listen to the podcast you provided... which I hope you actually would have.

Your basically taking a bunch of if's and maybes and trying to change around what he actually said to fit your arguement... when it's not what he said.


Listening to the podcast... what he actually says it quite obvious vs what you want him to be saying.  He makes it sound as if NPD undertracks EVERYTHING under 30%.  Makes him sound like he's talking about shipped numbers.

I like what he says about design sensibilities... but it's pretty obvious he's off on the NPD stuff.